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post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

I just bought a pair of ski boots and now having doubts if its "too much boot" for me.

 

For a little bit of background, I've been skiing for 4 years on both east and west coast. I ski anywhere from 3-8 days a year (depending on if I do a trip out west). I ski blues and easier blacks with no problem and ski at moderate speeds.

 

I went in to get fitted for boots and the fitter determined I have a narrow foot, which limits the boots he would recommend to me. The only 2 he currently had in my size (26) were the Atomic Burner 90's and Salomon X3-CS (in 26.5). Both had 98mm last and 100 flex. Both felt really good on my feet and wore both for about 10 minutes walking around the store. He said I should pick whichever felt better but the Salomon's were the better boot and he could give me 40% since someone used them once and returned them. I'm a sucker for a good deal and chose the Salomon's.

 

After buying them, I've done some reading and while I know the Salomon's are dialed down from a real race boot I'm concerned this might be too much boot for me. One of the things I struggle with is making sure my body is leaning forward and trying to determine if the agressive forward lean is something that should help me or if its going to really cause me to struggle. I'd like to improve, but don't see any need to be an expert skier. I just want to enjoy it.

 

Anyone who has more experience with boots than I do, your opinion would be awesome...

post #2 of 9

First of all, welcome to EpicSki!

 

In response to your question, just go out and ski and see how they suit you.  100 flex isn't too stiff unless you are a lightweight.  

 

You might want to let us know your height and weight so that people can give you a more informed opinion.  

 

Also, what shoe size are you?  It will help us know if you are in the right size boot.  You should also read the wiki on shell sizing at the top of the "Ask the Boot Guys" forum to get an idea if they are the right size, or are too big.

 

Mike

post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 

I am 5'10", 170 lbs. I generally wear size 9 shoes. He originally said he would like to see me in a 25-26 boot, but the 26.5 in the Salomon would give me a bit more of a comfort fit. When standing, my toes barely touch the front of the boot.

post #4 of 9

Welcome to Epic Ski.  A few things you need to know.  If your toes are barely touching the end of the boot now, the gap will only grow as the boot gets used and the liner packs out some.  Did the fitter do a shell fit?  I cannot imagine any of the fitters we have here, once determining that 26 is the long end of what will really work would then give someone a 26.5.  In order to control your skis, your boots need to fit like a glove, a snug but not painful glove.  If the boot is too big, your foot will slide around inside the liner and must move before your intentions get transmitted to the ski.  I think that by going for a comfort fit, you will hold yourself back to a certain extent.  Go to the "Ask the Boot Guys" forum and read the wikis there about terminology and fitting, then return the boots and get the right size based on a shell fit.  If that's a 25.5 or a 26 that is what you should be wearing.

post #5 of 9

A 26.5 shell seems rather large for a size nine foot.   I am a 10-10.5 shoe and wear a 26 boot...perfect shell fit.  That boot you bought although comfy now, will probably feel very loose by the end of the season.


Edited by Richie-Rich - 3/1/11 at 6:15pm
post #6 of 9
Great response by Mike C.

From your followup I wouldn't worry about a 100 flex. I'm also 5' 10" but only 140 lbs., yet I ski in a 110-120 flex with no problems (or none that I can blame on the boots!). I'm more experienced but your additional weight should compensate. If you can flex them readily when they're cold, they're flexible enough.

However, I am concerned about that 26.5 size. If you measure 25-26 that's what you should be skiing in. Assuming a shell that suits your foot shape, 25.0 would provide a race fit, 25.5 a performance fit and 26.0 a cushy fit. Anything longer can cause skiing problems, pain and even foot damage. Over-large boots are the #1 error amongst less experienced skiers. Even a proper but forgiving fit feels too snug until a skier has enough on-hill mileage to understand how a good fit feels. One wonders if the shop sold you what they had, rather than what you need. Let's hope not.

As Mike suggested, read the shell sizing guide. Pull your liners and check for yourself. If the shell's clearly too long then change boots - period. No amount of padding or fiddling will make up for a too-large shell, it's not worth the pain.

If the size seems borderline then go ski. If you suffer arch cramps, toe bang or shin bang, chances are the shell's too big. If you have to tighten the lower two buckles to stabilize your foot, chances are the shell's too big. (My lower buckles have never been tighter than their loosest setting. The shell fits my foot so well that I don't need them.)

Custom footbeds are advisable but it's critical to get the shell fit right first.

P.S. If you do change boots, any foot that can fit in a 98mm last should consider a Lange. They offer several 98mm models and Lange's superb stance and ski feel will help any skier improve and have a blast doing it.
post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thanks everyone for your insight! I went back and had another guy double check the sizing. He also said I was a 25-26 and then shell sized me in the Salomon's. He thought they were a bit big, but not too big. I knew they were too big. I tried some other boots in a 26 (now I'm think why I wasn't offered these the 1st time!) and ended up leaving with Tecnica Inferno Heat's in a 26. These things had that vice grip fit I was looking for. Feeling much better about my purchase and can't wait to try these puppies out on the slopes in Whistler in a week!

post #8 of 9

Sweet Jesus I love it when this site works. Person asks a question, gets good advice, makes a better decision. Good on you mate!

 

Have a blast in Whistler and be sure to post a trip report with some pics!

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Originally Posted by Bradg24 View Post

I just bought a pair of ski boots and now having doubts if its "too much boot" for me.

 

For a little bit of background, I've been skiing for 4 years on both east and west coast. I ski anywhere from 3-8 days a year (depending on if I do a trip out west). I ski blues and easier blacks with no problem and ski at moderate speeds.

 

I went in to get fitted for boots and the fitter determined I have a narrow foot, which limits the boots he would recommend to me. The only 2 he currently had in my size (26) were the Atomic Burner 90's and Salomon X3-CS (in 26.5). Both had 98mm last and 100 flex. Both felt really good on my feet and wore both for about 10 minutes walking around the store. He said I should pick whichever felt better but the Salomon's were the better boot and he could give me 40% since someone used them once and returned them. I'm a sucker for a good deal and chose the Salomon's.

 

After buying them, I've done some reading and while I know the Salomon's are dialed down from a real race boot I'm concerned this might be too much boot for me. One of the things I struggle with is making sure my body is leaning forward and trying to determine if the agressive forward lean is something that should help me or if its going to really cause me to struggle. I'd like to improve, but don't see any need to be an expert skier. I just want to enjoy it.

 

Anyone who has more experience with boots than I do, your opinion would be awesome...


Nobody could possibly know whether or not the boot will work for you; you need to go try them and see how they feel.  If there are painful areas around the foot, you can get those spots in the shell heated up and "punched out" to relieve the pressure on your feet in those areas.  But if you hate them or something, it sounds like your shop lets you return stuff (but not sure if you could do that since you already bought a once-used boot)...  Anyway, if you only ski 3-8 days per year, I wouldn't worry too much about the liners "packing out"--this is something that happens over time to boots that are used FREQUENTLY.

 

Since you are probably going to be vacationing with these boots in the near future (in terms of days boots are used skiing), having them fit right now is important.  But do keep in mind that if you intend on keeping these boots for multiple seasons, in the coming years, as you total days in the boots increases, you will indeed notice the liner has packed out and--all of a sudden--the boot feels noticeably looser in the foot area (something that is a carver-killer).

 

This is just my two cents... I hope you like your boots.  Just remember boots are perhaps the most important piece of equipment so if for whatever reason they aren't cutting it for you find ones that do.

 

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