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post #61 of 79

Never detune them or any other ski I own. They're fine. Base is 1, think the edge is 2. Could be more, but doesn't feel like 3. 

post #62 of 79
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post

Never detune them or any other ski I own. They're fine. Base is 1, think the edge is 2. Could be more, but doesn't feel like 3. 

 

Me too. I have never detuned any ski I own.

 

post #63 of 79

Thanks for the info. I hear a bit about detuning skis with rocker or fatter skis. Prefer to keep everything sharp. Can't wait to get out on these!

post #64 of 79
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Originally Posted by tromano View Post

 

Me too. I have never detuned any ski I own.

 


why would you when on soft snow all the time. ON hard snow overly sharp skis will be grabby.

 

 

 

post #65 of 79
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Originally Posted by moguljunkie View Post

Just picked up a pair of these. I generally don't detune my tips and tails on skis narrower than these. Anybody not detuning these and finding them okay? Also, anyone know the factory side and base bevel?



I run a 2/4 on mine with some detuning on the running length and dull edges on the reverse sidecut. 

post #66 of 79

Just got out on these skis for the first time. There's only one word that can describe them: Lin-credible!

 

Nimble in the steep bumps. Nice edge hold on the firmer snow. Quite adept at shorter turns. Just a really fun ski and perfect for the East Coast. it's a travesty that Blizzard's going to stop making them. Flipcore, shmipcore, these skis are The One!

post #67 of 79
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I run a 2/4 on mine with some detuning on the running length and dull edges on the reverse sidecut. 


I'm intrigued by this 2/4. Never heard of anyone using anything like that before. I'm thinking maybe the 2 could be helpful in the bumps or trees if you want to be able to pivot more and not get up on edge. But still trying to understand the benefits of 4 on the side. If you're in conditions where you don't want your edges to engage, wouldn't you want them to also release easily? Or do they just engage on piste where you need the extra edge hold?

post #68 of 79

Anyone care to share experiences with the bases in this year's low snow conditions? Despite scraping numerous hidden rocks over 5 days so far I only ended up with one serious gouge to the ptex which appears to have ever so slightly pushed against the edge. Hopefully its not serious enough to cause it to begin to separate.

post #69 of 79
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Originally Posted by moguljunkie View Post


I'm intrigued by this 2/4. Never heard of anyone using anything like that before. I'm thinking maybe the 2 could be helpful in the bumps or trees if you want to be able to pivot more and not get up on edge. But still trying to understand the benefits of 4 on the side. If you're in conditions where you don't want your edges to engage, wouldn't you want them to also release easily? Or do they just engage on piste where you need the extra edge hold?



basically at low edge angle turns and on the way to high edge angle carves it makes the ski extremely predictable with what ever you want to do with it. When on high edge angle carving on groomers you still have the same edge as a 1/3 and its going to hold just as well if you want it to.

 

this sounds weird but it actually let you use high edge angles as there is less guess work trying to get the ski to engage and disengage. For people who are use to the ski doing the work for them this edge set up is a bad idea but to people who like to manual input everything this is a great idea.

 

THe idea comes from many of Freeride world tour competiors who run as much as 3 to 4 degrees on the base so they can GS and SG turn chaulky variable bumps with out risking a catched edge and it works.

post #70 of 79

ONe pair of 184 The ONes left if anyone is interested.

post #71 of 79
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Originally Posted by aschick View Post

Anyone care to share experiences with the bases in this year's low snow conditions? Despite scraping numerous hidden rocks over 5 days so far I only ended up with one serious gouge to the ptex which appears to have ever so slightly pushed against the edge. Hopefully its not serious enough to cause it to begin to separate.


Have the One in 177 and have been using it exclusively the last week. Going into any woods I can find, bases have a few scratchs but nothing major. Have been rolling over logs, breaking thru saplings, occasional stumps, no serious rocks yet but I'm never quite sure if the brown I'm about to hit is bark or granite. I think these are a pretty tough ski. I think Blizzard should give them a longer run in order to build up a following. This really is a great ski for most anything.

 

post #72 of 79
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Have the One in 177 and have been using it exclusively the last week. Going into any woods I can find, bases have a few scratchs but nothing major. Have been rolling over logs, breaking thru saplings, occasional stumps, no serious rocks yet but I'm never quite sure if the brown I'm about to hit is bark or granite. I think these are a pretty tough ski. I think Blizzard should give them a longer run in order to build up a following. This really is a great ski for most anything.

 


The bases are bomber. I have noticed some weird chipping on the top sheet but it seems to be under control.


Edited by tromano - 2/19/12 at 5:32pm
post #73 of 79

Yeah I have some of that too. Maybe putting some epoxy compound on them every so often will keep them good.

post #74 of 79
If you take a Panzer or Body file and 45 the top sheet you will mostly eliminate the chipping. The top sheets of The One and The Crush have a pretty sharp edge on them. If you round off that top edge your edges are less likely to pull up the top sheet and cause chipping.
post #75 of 79

IT is too bad these skis are discontinued. I absolutely love my 184 the ones. The yare by far the best middle of the road ski to use and love to be taken off-piste in variable conditions nad just soak it up because they are so damp and pretty soft. They still manage to carve and hold pretty good. The tails are nice and soft as well so if you get in the backseat you can easily recover without looking like a tard all day long.

 

 

post #76 of 79

Nordica soulrider is my replacement loved the "one" love the soul rider!

post #77 of 79

Just read up on the Soul Rider. Sounds like a similar ski. How does it differ from the One?

post #78 of 79

Another ski that appears to be like a somewhat stiffer One is the Moment PB&J. 

post #79 of 79

I spent a year and a half on the one.  I loved as just a fun ski.  As soon as I stepped onto the soul rider it felt exactly the same as I remember the one.  Just Fun.  Im guessing the construction is very close minus the system the one had.  I just had a ball skiing these in the trees at Bigsky.  I know there is more hard charging skis out there but I just loved the soul rider!

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