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Blizzard Mag 8.1, Kendo, Prophet?

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I am looking at several skis in anticipation of a Utah trip.  I ski EC with the yearly western trip.  This year I am going with family so will have to stay on groomers mostly, but like a fast, relatively easy turning ski with good edge control.  Reviews here and elsewhere tell me the Blizzard magnum 8.1, the kendo and the prophet 100 all fit that description to a degree, though obviously different skis.  The magnum is probably the safest bet, would certainly be a great EC ski, but I am thinking either of the other two would be more fun on the west trip if I could sneak away for a few ungroomed runs, especially if the recent snow fall continues into early march when I am going...if I got the prophet I could pick up a EC carver on sale this spring for the new england hills.  I am 175, 6' 3", level 7+.  Thanks for any thoughts

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You have certainly come up with a strange mix. IAC......I have lived in the East and the West and have skied all three quite a bit and owned the P-100 and the 8.1. My take is as follows.

 

8.1 and Kendo are both hard snow biased skis and despite the additional width, the Kendo is not dramatically better than the 8.1in soft b/c the back half of the ski is very stiff while the 8.1 has a rounder flex. Nevertheless neither are bad at off trail packed or soft packed conditions as long as you are not talking deep snow.

 

If you want a hard snow biased ski in a wider width, you would be better served by the Mag 8.7 than either of the above as it has the rounder flex of the 8.1 and the width of the Kendo. If you want something in the mid 80's with a more even balance of hard vs. soft capabilities then the Sultan 85 would be a great candidate.

 

The P-100 is a clear winner in softer and mixed conditions and is one of the more versatile ~~ 100mm skis out there. It skis well on firmish groomers but ideally, you would want to supplement it with something else for Eastern conditions.

 

So............

 

One ski.................Mag 8.7 or Sultan 85.

Two skis................P-100 and Mag 8.1 or maybe even Mag 7.6.

 

SJ

post #3 of 8
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SJ:

 

Thanks very much for the reply and sound advice.  I think I will go for  the two (or more) ski solution...and for now go for the P100 (with atomic FFG 12) and try something new, what with the western trip and spring approaching, and supplement that later with an 80 +/-  carver for those eastern days when a knife is needed. The Blizzards are awfully tempting though...I feel a quiver in the making.  

 

Mike

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Kind of in the same boat, mcadmass.  I brought my Kastle MX78/176cm skis, which are quite similar to the Magnum 8.1s, to Utah from Massachusetts, and they were fine, even in about 12" of Utah fluff.  On day two of big snows, with over two feet of fluff, they just dove...and dove some more.  Worse, they were extremely unpredictable under the snow unless I made some seriously exaggerated old-skool weighting/unweighting moves or got WAY backseat then centered after turn initiation.  They just don't have enough surface area to have any buoyancy, at least for my parameters, so I rented some Rossi S7 Freerides that day.  By contrast, they made it so easy that it felt like cheating!  By the next day, skiing in lots of cut up snow through the trees, my Kastles were just fine.

 

Of course, skiing any groomers or bumps with the MX78s felt like cheating!

 

In sum, I'd go for the two-ski solution.  YMMV...I'm 6'1", 200lbs, L9.

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I've been skiing on the Mag 8.1's (169's) this year (in Whistler) and they've been good in 6" ish heavy powder and chopped up snow in the trees.  On the bumps they're super responsive and as previously stated, they fly on the groomers.  Out east they'd be great on the bulletproof runs (WNY, NH, VT, Ont, and PQ).

 

 

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Thread Starter 

Crimptacular:

 

If you don't mind me asking, what is your height/weight...if I go for 8.1 at some point would like to know the correct length...i am 175 \lbs 6ft+  

post #7 of 8

I'm 5'10" and 170lbs.  Very happy with them in the 169 length. 

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I HAVE A PAIR OF KENDO'S AND GOTAMAS FOR MY NEW 2010 SET UPS. LAST YEAR I HAD P100 AND VOLKL AC30. WHILE I ENJOYED THE AC30 ON THE GROOMERS, IT WAS NOT MUCH IN THE CRUD. THE P100 WAS A COMPLETE DISAPPOINTMENT IN DEEP POWDER. SINCE IT HAS NO ROCKER OR EARLY RISE, IT SKIS ALMOST THE SAME AS THE P90. GOING TO THE KENDO, IT CARVES JUST AS WELL AS THE AC 30 BUT MUCH BETTER AT CRUD AND SHALLOW POWDER. FOR THE DEEP POWDER DAYS THE GOTAMAS CAN NOT BE BEAT. HERE IN WASHINGTON WE GET LOTS OF HEAVY POWDER BIG DUMPS. MANY OF THE SKIS I HAVE TRIED JUST CAN NOT HANDLE THIS TYPE OF SNOW. I SHOULD MENTION I ALSO HAVE A PAIR OF LINE MOTHERSHIPS THAT ARE ALMOST GOOD ENOUGH TO BE A ONE SKI QUIVER. THEY PERFORM BEST IN THE HEAVY POWDER BIG DUMPS. THE KENDO WILL TAKE ME ANYWHERE ON THE MOUNTAIN WITH EASE AND NOT WHERE ME OUT.

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