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No love for K2 Kung Fujas?

post #1 of 10
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I've posted a few threads about trying to find a replacement for my aging 2003 Atomic Sugar Daddies.

 

I'm an advanced/expert skier, can ski anything inbounds and prefers steep pow runs. I'm 6'1", 215 lbs, a little overweight, but also have pretty good ski muscles and leg power.  I needed a ski that would handle steep/deep, yet also have adequate manners on groomers because I ski with developing skiers.

 

After recommendations from my brother, who is 6'4", about the same weight, and has skied K2 Seth incarnations as an Aspen ski bum for the better part of a decade, I started to seriously look at the Kung Fujas.

 

I was concerned about the ski because it was less stiff than what I was skiing, and I felt I would overpower the ski. Still, I saw my brother certainly didn't overpower his Seths, so I took a second look, then took the plunge and picked up a set of 09/10 189 Kung Fujas when the price was right.

 

I skied them for the first time last weekend at Monarch, 3 days, all three days very different condition, and got a good feel for them.

 

Put simply, these things ROCK as an all mountain ski. Holy Crap.

 

First day- No fresh snow in a week, warm weather has laid down fairly hard boilerplate, although the sunny weather softended it. I hadn't really figured out how to turn the ski and was hack/skidding many turns, but the edge still grabbed every turn. From the get go, these were much better on hard snow than my old Atomics.  Turns were lively, but the ski never felt floppy.

 

Second day- Storm hits, fresh untracked 12" of snow. The ski charged hard all day, and felt very balanced.  Whenever I would get bounced into the backseat, the ski seemed to naturally push me back over my feet. The rocker seemed to do its job in helping the ski float. I hiked Mirkwood Bowl when the gates dropped, went weak on the top of the Mirkwood Bowl cornice and broke it on me starting a mini-avalanche, but was able to pop the skis back under me and ski it out. The skis cut beautiful lines, no tip dives, just effortless hard charging turns at speed.  I'm thinking, "hey, the ski is pretty cool."

 

Third day- Fresh snow is now crud. Underneath the crud is rock-solid refrozen boilerplate from the thawing prior to the storm.  I think the defining run was a moderate black run that had patches of boilerplate mixed with crud, and then pockets off loose, soft snow, so that every turn carried you through each. I was struggling on the upper part of the run, trying to tailor each turn to the kind of snow it was on, then getting pushed around when  the snow changed mid-turn. Halfway through, I inadvertently laid down a nice carve, and was shocked to have the ski compliantly hold the edge through the crud and loose snow. I rolled the ski over into another turn, and the ski just ran over everything making nice neat arcs the whole way down.  I've never been able to railroad track cut up snow, yet here we are.

 

 

 

I never felt I was overpowering the ski, and while the tip and tails are a bit (lot) floppy, the ski is still fairly firm underfoot.  I could certainly drive this ski.

 

I've seen very few comments about the Kung Fu, and I think this is really a gem of a ski. Try one!

 

post #2 of 10

Just have to echo this glowing review.  40yrs old, 5'9" ,180lbs, expert skier.   A coworker lent me his 179 Kung Fujas(09/10) and I took them up to Alta a couple of weeks ago.  Absolute blast on Groomers, Powder was quick and light and they easily handles the crud.  Only draw back is the short running surface and twin tip made the ski a bit slower.  I could tell top speed in a straght run was slower than say my Dynastar speed course 64's or even my Legend 8800.  But I would definaly recomend this ski as a fantastic all mountan ripper.  also the graphics are not my favorite.  If I find a cheap pair I'll have to cover them with some sparay paint.

 

Royal

post #3 of 10
I was talking to a K2 rep and he was saying the Kung Fujas were the closest thing to the last generation Obsetheds and if you were a fan of those then to try the Fujas.

That said, they seemed less bomber than my 08 Obsetheds but I haven't skied them so I donno. I would love to know from folks that have skied both.
post #4 of 10

I ski the Kung Fujas for the past 3 years. My fav ski for all around the mt. Did not think they were slow by any means,course I'm not an Xpert so.......tips flap some at higher speeds but still hold a good edge. They are not as durable as other skis,top sheet issues. But the price was right......free.

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Originally Posted by chickenmonkey View Post

I was talking to a K2 rep and he was saying the Kung Fujas were the closest thing to the last generation Obsetheds and if you were a fan of those then to try the Fujas.

That said, they seemed less bomber than my 08 Obsetheds but I haven't skied them so I donno. I would love to know from folks that have skied both.


The dimensions of the Kung Fujas have always been very similar to the previous generation Seth. Very similar flex and similar design.

 

When they first came out, they were nearly identical to the Seth Pistols, with 2 mm off the tip added to the tail to make it a better ski to ride switch.

 

The 2010/2011 model is 102 mm wide instead of the 95 of previous years, while the Seth is now 117 waist, which to me pushes it out of the range of an everyday ski like the previous Seths.

post #6 of 10

My husband has finally agreed to upgrade his too-short Salomon 1080 Foils. He is seeking a powder biased ski that can go all mountain on all but hard pack days -- for which he can pull out the foils.

 

He is of a certain age; 5'10 1/2 and 172 lbs. An 'expert' skier by resort ski school standards; 'advanced' on this forum. We ski mostly trees and bumps. Prefer soft snow when we can get it and ski in the Rockies.

 

This past weekend, he had the good fortune to try the Blizzard Cochise and the K2 Kung Fuja at Wolf Creek. first day with 16" of fresh on the Blizzards at 176 cm, he liked them and seemed to ski them well. He felt they were very stiff compared to his "noodles" but were agile. Still, he did not seem to have that "fall in love" moment with them.

 

Next day on the Kung Fujas at 179, he came alive. By then it was 30" of fresh and he was slithering all over around and through everything like a little kid on an adventure. He is not a Park or Pipe guy and am not sure if he responded to the twin tip because that's what he's used to, or it is a coincidence that the K2 was a twin like his foils. My sense of it was the Cochise was not as forgiving as the K2.

 

Trouble is, our local dealers don't have any Kung Fujas and we would like to support our local merchants if possible. 

 

It has been suggested he try the Atomic Coax as an alternative or the Dynastar Slicer. Niether of these seemed to make sense to me from reading about them. I ski the Atomic Century and thought perhaps the Access might be good but what's good for the gander ain't necessarily good for the goose.

 

 

 

Any ideas of what he might try instead?

 

Our locals dealers carry Atomic, Line, Volkl, Fischer, Dynastar and Solomon.

post #7 of 10

I have no affiliation with any of the epic vendors (disclaimer)  why not support one of them?  from my observations here they more than give back to this community.

 

Royal

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post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by Mom View Post

My husband has finally agreed to upgrade his too-short Salomon 1080 Foils. He is seeking a powder biased ski that can go all mountain on all but hard pack days -- for which he can pull out the foils.

 

He is of a certain age; 5'10 1/2 and 172 lbs. An 'expert' skier by resort ski school standards; 'advanced' on this forum. We ski mostly trees and bumps. Prefer soft snow when we can get it and ski in the Rockies.

 

This past weekend, he had the good fortune to try the Blizzard Cochise and the K2 Kung Fuja at Wolf Creek. first day with 16" of fresh on the Blizzards at 176 cm, he liked them and seemed to ski them well. He felt they were very stiff compared to his "noodles" but were agile. Still, he did not seem to have that "fall in love" moment with them.

 

Next day on the Kung Fujas at 179, he came alive. By then it was 30" of fresh and he was slithering all over around and through everything like a little kid on an adventure. He is not a Park or Pipe guy and am not sure if he responded to the twin tip because that's what he's used to, or it is a coincidence that the K2 was a twin like his foils. My sense of it was the Cochise was not as forgiving as the K2.

 

Trouble is, our local dealers don't have any Kung Fujas and we would like to support our local merchants if possible. 

 

It has been suggested he try the Atomic Coax as an alternative or the Dynastar Slicer. Niether of these seemed to make sense to me from reading about them. I ski the Atomic Century and thought perhaps the Access might be good but what's good for the gander ain't necessarily good for the goose.

 

 

 

Any ideas of what he might try instead?

 

Our locals dealers carry Atomic, Line, Volkl, Fischer, Dynastar and Solomon.


Try the following

 

Blog

Sir Francis Bacon

Katana

Czar

 

Also be sure he tries them in his size. I.E. over 180cm.

 

post #9 of 10

Thank you.

 

Good point Royal. I did check Start Haus and they are out of stock...

post #10 of 10

Like ecimmortal mentioned, the Line SFB is worth a try, as is the Blend. The Blend (100 mm) is a touch narrower than the Kung Fujas, and the SFB is a bit wider (108 mm). Plus, they both come in similar lengths (178 and 183/184), so he can get a real feel for two different lengths in both widths.

 

He should be pretty happy with at least one of those four options.

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