I had a chance to demo Lange's new RS a few weeks ago and like them better than anything I've been in before or since. The problem is that I'm not anxious to spend the $400 to $600 on a new pair. So, my question is, what other models out there have a similar upright (+ or - 12 degree) cuff? Especially something that might be a couple of years old that could be had cheaper on the used market. I'm looking for something in the 115 to 130 flex and 98mm width. I have a Foredom tool and access to a boot press to take care of any punch's and grinds. FWIW, I've got a pair of Dobermann WC 150's (also a nice upright stance) but they are a little cold and harsh for all day skiing. So, can't wait to hear all the options.