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post #91 of 109

The FIS would be goos .. er .. in lock schtep mit The Fatherlandt in a Munich Minute.  Opps was I not PC?  eek.gif

 

Hey, that is reality and racing.

 

And Lindsey has been always a bit on the prissy and spoilt rotten side.  It's like she knew and deserved everything she got (and indeed she worked for sure), but there is not an ounce of modesty in her.  Maria at least looks like she appreciates and does not simply expect a globe.  Yeah, she (Vonn), kind of has a "Prom Queen" tude. 

 

Mancuso was pretty cool, kind of subdued hooting (with the leg kick), and I was sooooo glad she scored big.  yahoo.gif

post #92 of 109

Wait, I was looking at the pictures of here boots again, and it appears there is charcoal-colored duct tape in the medial side of the boot toward the front.  You can see it cover up the "D" in HEAD.  What's up with that?

 

Let's just give her the benefit of the doubt and say they are HEAD boots... what is the purpose of the tape?

 

 

Also, if you get past the color and "HEAD," those actually look like they could be Rossi boots.

 

 

But I agree that with as big as LV is to HEAD, there's no reason she couldn't get a 100% custom-constructed shell to her exact specifications and liking.  The biggest athletes in other sports get 100% custom equipment (biggest PGA Tour players get golf clubs custom made).

 

 

One last note... if this was a "cover-up" job by engineers/technicians at HEAD, couldn't they be sued by whatever company made the shell, b/c you're passing off their product as "HEAD" for marketing purposes (implicit for athlete displaying a brand name on WC)???

post #93 of 109


 

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Originally Posted by BoredAtBMBW View Post

Wait, I was looking at the pictures of here boots again, and it appears there is charcoal-colored duct tape in the medial side of the boot toward the front.  You can see it cover up the "D" in HEAD.  What's up with that?

 

Let's just give her the benefit of the doubt and say they are HEAD boots... what is the purpose of the tape?

 

 

Also, if you get past the color and "HEAD," those actually look like they could be Rossi boots.

 

 

But I agree that with as big as LV is to HEAD, there's no reason she couldn't get a 100% custom-constructed shell to her exact specifications and liking.  The biggest athletes in other sports get 100% custom equipment (biggest PGA Tour players get golf clubs custom made).

 

 

One last note... if this was a "cover-up" job by engineers/technicians at HEAD, couldn't they be sued by whatever company made the shell, b/c you're passing off their product as "HEAD" for marketing purposes (implicit for athlete displaying a brand name on WC)???


Hey, those boots -- Head, Rossignol, Lange -- are all designed in the same region, if not the same town, here in Italy. Wouldn't be surprised if there was a bit of "sharing" going on. If I'm not mistaken, even Atomic/Salomon and Fischer now have design presence in Montebelluna.

 

post #94 of 109

Not race boots Prickly ;) But it's true that Head boots are developed by same guy who developed Lange boots before he came to Head few years back. So there might be some similarity. But as I wrote before already... it's no secret that people use old boots from their old suppliers who got repainted, or they use liners from their old (different company) boots in their new ones etc. It's nothing so special, but in this particular case, I don't know if it's true or not. But to be honest, I don't really care ;)

post #95 of 109

Race boots designed somewhere else? Tell me more.

post #96 of 109

I thought the letters were just worn out but after a closer look I think you are right there appears to be tape.   I think that the boots may have been ground or punched to a a degree to perforate possible upon contact with a ski edge (happened to a previous pair of Head Raptor boots I had that had been ground too much) and they may have just taped it to not allow water in,  because the tape appears to be on both sides where the toes (if she has large ones) would need more room....hard to tell.
 

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Originally Posted by BoredAtBMBW View Post

Wait, I was looking at the pictures of here boots again, and it appears there is charcoal-colored duct tape in the medial side of the boot toward the front.  You can see it cover up the "D" in HEAD.  What's up with that?

 

Let's just give her the benefit of the doubt and say they are HEAD boots... what is the purpose of the tape?

 

 

Also, if you get past the color and "HEAD," those actually look like they could be Rossi boots.

 

 

But I agree that with as big as LV is to HEAD, there's no reason she couldn't get a 100% custom-constructed shell to her exact specifications and liking.  The biggest athletes in other sports get 100% custom equipment (biggest PGA Tour players get golf clubs custom made).

 

 

One last note... if this was a "cover-up" job by engineers/technicians at HEAD, couldn't they be sued by whatever company made the shell, b/c you're passing off their product as "HEAD" for marketing purposes (implicit for athlete displaying a brand name on WC)???



 

post #97 of 109

Damned good point Richie.  You know the easy out is that they would just say "Yo' we are just advertising" it has nothing to do the the boot?

 

I suppose they could do an imposed shadow profile and make a case without yanking them off her feet.

 

I don't know about FIS but USSA you toss a few ($50 or $100), on the table and a coach can file a protest and that means surrender of the gear ... but ... that is one civil matter independent of FIS rules.

 

I do not think there is a clause for "generally honest and forthright" ??  popcorn.gif

post #98 of 109
Hmmm lindsey knows how to win but maybe at point of ducttape it's time to move to a 98 last. Jeez. It's like one narrow-footed superstar or boot maker "decided" 95mm was gold standard for racing.
post #99 of 109

i know that the fun part for many of you is speculating and making stuff up as you go along, so you will have to excuse me for throwing a bucket of cold water on your baseless comments about LV's boots.

 

the supposed smoking gun duct tape is not duct tape. the boot shells have been ground down from the bottom of the shell towards the top at the spot on the boots where they can make contact with the snow when the boots are at a high edge angle. this prevents LV from "booting out" against the snow. if you look at how the head is shaped in the toe box, you will see that it is one of the widest boots up towards the binding toe piece. many other athletes have the same external grind work done however on most other boots the widest spot is further back than on the heads. this info applies to her speed boots from the shots taken from Tarvisio and Garmisch. without fear of contradiction i can tell you that those boots are head boots with an external shell mod to prevent "boot out".

 

The video from from Spindleruv is somewhat inconclusive in that first of all these are different boots than what she uses for speed. you can see that they have the spine flex buckles. secondly this is where Maria first started to make public statements about something going on with LV's boots. but because there is not a clear shot available from the video clip, speculation is the only tool in your belt. that being said, an athlete needs to make what ever modifications that are necessary to achieve the desired feel of the boot on snow to win races. they also have an obligation to their contracted supplier to protect that contractual agreement. in real world terms, anything that was done to modify LV's boots was done with either permission or help from head. everyone that is close to the sport of ski racing knows that the products the athletes use and the products that are commercially available are not the same. it is also very well understood at the top levels that ski boots must be modified for each individual athlete so that they can perform at their best level.

 

having worked as a boot serviceman back in the day, at our company we attempted to protect the design principles of our retail products by always masking any modifications done to race athletes equipment so that the competition never got wind of what we were doing to modify products to get them to work for athletes. there was a time when testors model paints in matching colors to the boots were a must have tool in my zarges box. with the purpose of covering up extra rivets, or additions of welding rod, fiberglass, or carbon fiber.

 

now i would like to interrupt my rant about world cup ski boot mods, and attempt to get you guys back to discussing LV, pro or con........rolleyes.gif

 

jim

post #100 of 109

^^^ Not sure what intelligent, highly informed posts are doing at this point in a thread?  Vonn = KI, but her sunglasses are not the NKI.  Actually, I'm probably getting old and her sunglasses are probably highly in.

post #101 of 109

Daron.jpg

 

this is Daron Rahlves boot from 2005. silver medal bormio DH

 

See any similarities to LV's boots where the logo has been ground off in the process of getting the boot off the snow with high edge angles. no smoke, no mirrors, no espionage, no catistroph as the french were known to say, no rice no beans, no hermann maier whining because daron's boots were not stock.

 

jim

post #102 of 109

Among other things guys who know their boots are hard to find, might be worth a trip to truckee just for that late season in spring or in fall. 

post #103 of 109

That's clearly a Lange painted white. rolleyes.gif

post #104 of 109

maybe this will refocus you....

 

 

Lindsey_Vonn_red_helicopter.jpgLindsey-Vonn-Under-Armour.jpg

post #105 of 109

I noticed dullness at the location in question on Vonn's boots thats why I thought that it was just worn, but it did look like it was ground, (the tape match was also remarkably matched had it actually been tape) but then I thought why would they do that, I thought maybe to make the boot more forgiving in that area without changing the fit...never would I suspect it was for snow clearance...I mean how much could they remove...from this picture I see maybe 2mm max?  I am not doubting you it just seems crazy.   First time I am seeing this, I have looked at close-up views of many pro ski boots and this is the first time I am seeing this.  Most recently I was looking at some of Bode's and Cuches' boots by photos taken by Head tech staff, there were mods clearly visible with no attempts at masking them, extra scews, extra rivets extra plastic, mix and matched buckles and straps, but none had this ground down plastic.  Than again maybe I have come across it and just thought it was wear and tear and not done on purpose.

 

You think that perhaps those that get this done, do so because after getting the boots canted and or aligned a more "duck foot" stance was chosen as the neutral and so that is why every bit off the outside they could remove was beneficial?
 

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Originally Posted by starthaus View Post

Daron.jpg

 

this is Daron Rahlves boot from 2005. silver medal bormio DH

 

See any similarities to LV's boots where the logo has been ground off in the process of getting the boot off the snow with high edge angles. no smoke, no mirrors, no espionage, no catistroph as the french were known to say, no rice no beans, no hermann maier whining because daron's boots were not stock.

 

jim



 

post #106 of 109

Time to ressurrect the "Mahres skied on Volkls thread"? ........  rolleyes.gif

 

and, to get back closer  to the original thread, the most consistent skier over the season got the overall globe - isn't that what the points system is designed to do?  .

post #107 of 109
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Originally Posted by ScotsSkier View Post

Time to ressurrect the "Mahres skied on Volkls thread"? ........  rolleyes.gif

Doesn't matter, same company now.

post #108 of 109

She isn't pissing me off.  Any US skier winning medals, globes, etc. is cool in my book.

 

What pissed me off, and a recognize is what an act of nature, was the last GS race being canceled.


We get Universal Sports Channel now and I can finally watch World Cup skiing.  So with one race, Riesch is 3 pts up on Vonn.  I really really wanted to see that race.  Yeah, I'd root for Vonn but I didn't really care that much who won.  I mostly just wanted to see the competition.  It was likely calling the 7th game of world series over in 7th inning because of rain and saying whoever was ahead won.

 

-L2t

 

post #109 of 109

Lindsey is totally pissing me off too.

She thinks she's so important, like no time for her fans.

So stressed out she that she won't pause for a picture. biggrin.gif

 

L_vonn.jpg

 

 

Actually, I couldn't hardly believe this picture when I saw it.

What an awesome keepsake these kids got from the Olympics.

This picture was taken just below the Finish line Bleachers at the Whistler Olympics.

 

 


Edited by NordtheBarbarian - 3/28/11 at 11:50pm
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