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post #31 of 43
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

In your position I'd want to know if several or many pairs were stolen that day, which would indicate a professional theft ring. If there was a known ski theft ring operating there, I'd object to paying, especially if the rental shop knew of it, which they should certainly, and didn't give you the heads up. Sometimes police stop a pickup with 30 or 40 pairs in the back; that's how the pro thing works. Some poor or greedy person looks around for one pair, their size, of a particular brand they actually want to ski on; the pros could care less the model.

 

Squaw has roaming, highly visible, uniformed security all over the place, experienced guys I've seen for 10+ years on the job. They catch people time to time, though it's pretty rare here, and I appreciate their help. Conversely, a ski area with no ski check or security isn't really pulling their weight in customer service.

 

I can't believe the shop that much, the whole thing smells to say the least. It's their ski area, they're the locals, and they must have had this happen before or knew very well about the problem, yet did nothing about it in terms of securing their demos/rentals; weird.

 

Notify every ski shop, as shops may check serial numbers on skis that come through for work


 

As was already stated in this thread PCMR has a free check for rental skis. Personal responsibility is foreign to most Americans but your argument  actually surprised  me. Are you actually saying the shop stole the skis? Or they know of some organized crime ring in Park City and look the other way because it makes them money? 

 

To the O.P. I hope the skis got taken by accident and they turn up. A friend of mine was in your exact situation a few years ago at Aspen, his skis were returned a month later and they gave him his money back.

post #32 of 43

I heard the PA State Troopers caught a van with 50 pairs of skis on the Turnpike - no doubt the genius' were speeding.  I am sure the skis were all new.

post #33 of 43

not at all; as around here, if skis are being stolen, we hear about it. Perhaps the shop would have heard about skis being stolen and advised their customers to keep them in sight or lock them. Then it would matter if their was a pattern of ski theft at the resort and if several pair were stolen that same day, it could mean a professional job. likewise, hope it was a mistake and they come back.

post #34 of 43
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Of course, this whole issue wouldn't have come up for me, given my OCD about locking my skis...wink.gif


Good for you...and I'm not being sarcastic.  I'm wondering how many people will laugh at me when they see my Elan Magfire 10s locked up at Pats Peak on Monday race night...

 

Thanks for everyone's input.  I feel that the rental shop got the good end of the deal (reimbursement from me for a new pair of skis at their retail price when they paid wholesale and likely got several days of rental income on the stolen ones), and I just hope that they will be honest if the skis by some small miracle do turn up in the next few days.

 

I do plan on sticking with my basic cable lock and using it 100% of the time.

post #35 of 43
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

In your position I'd want to know if several or many pairs were stolen that day, which would indicate a professional theft ring. If there was a known ski theft ring operating there, I'd object to paying, especially if the rental shop knew of it, which they should certainly, and didn't give you the heads up. Sometimes police stop a pickup with 30 or 40 pairs in the back; that's how the pro thing works. Some poor or greedy person looks around for one pair, their size, of a particular brand they actually want to ski on; the pros could care less the model.

 

Squaw has roaming, highly visible, uniformed security all over the place, experienced guys I've seen for 10+ years on the job. They catch people time to time, though it's pretty rare here, and I appreciate their help. Conversely, a ski area with no ski check or security isn't really pulling their weight in customer service.

 

I can't believe the shop that much, the whole thing smells to say the least. It's their ski area, they're the locals, and they must have had this happen before or knew very well about the problem, yet did nothing about it in terms of securing their demos/rentals; weird.

 

Notify every ski shop, as shops may check serial numbers on skis that come through for work


My beef with the shop is that if they were getting a theft about once a week (I heard all kinds of reports on thefts based on who I talked to) that they should have, as a matter of good customer service, warned their customers and reminded them to lock or check their skis.  That simple additional effort could have prevented my experience.

 

Note, however, that I do not hold the shop responsible for the theft in any way and I had no intention of not paying for the loss...I was the one who didn't secure the skis and they were my responsibility while I had them.

post #36 of 43
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Good for you...and I'm not being sarcastic.  I'm wondering how many people will laugh at me when they see my Elan Magfire 10s locked up at Pats Peak on Monday race night...

 

Thanks for everyone's input.  I feel that the rental shop got the good end of the deal (reimbursement from me for a new pair of skis at their retail price when they paid wholesale and likely got several days of rental income on the stolen ones), and I just hope that they will be honest if the skis by some small miracle do turn up in the next few days.

 

I do plan on sticking with my basic cable lock and using it 100% of the time.


My initial reaction when you posted how much they charged you was: what a rip-off!! They should have just charged you cost. But if you look at it from their perspective, if they charge cost, there would probably be a lot of "stolen" skis walking away. Because not only would customers get a pair of wholesale skis that way, they'd get to demo them before buying. Sounds like a pretty good plan if you don't mind being dishonest (and let's face it--many people don't, as proven by your stolen skis).

 

Did they charge rental fees on top of it? Because that would be a rip, if you basically paid the going price for the skis. Otherwise, I wouldn't be to sore about it; they did what they had to do. A (expensive) lesson learned.

post #37 of 43
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My initial reaction when you posted how much they charged you was: what a rip-off!! They should have just charged you cost. But if you look at it from their perspective, if they charge cost, there would probably be a lot of "stolen" skis walking away. Because not only would customers get a pair of wholesale skis that way, they'd get to demo them before buying. Sounds like a pretty good plan if you don't mind being dishonest (and let's face it--many people don't, as proven by your stolen skis).

 

Did they charge rental fees on top of it? Because that would be a rip, if you basically paid the going price for the skis. Otherwise, I wouldn't be to sore about it; they did what they had to do. A (expensive) lesson learned.

 

Yes they did, but I really don't have a problem with that since the theft happened on the first day and I rented a second pair for the 5 days.  Only regret was that I went with AC50s which were good for busting through the loose Utah powder but I think were a bit too much ski for me.

 

The one thing I'm glad of is that they charged the current going price, which was somewhat lower than MSRP ($650 vs. ~$1025) because it was later in the season.

 

Guess it's hard to look at it from the perspective of the shop automatically assuming I stole the skis...especially since I filed a police report for the theft.

post #38 of 43
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

Since I spent 27 seasons skiing at Camelback, the likelihood of every leaving skis unlocked is nil.  (Used to watch kids going up and down the racks casing the skis....  Was with a friend whose skis were "sort of" locked, but not well locked...She got them two weeks before and they were a "hot" ski at the time...Let me tell you you don't want to be WITH someone whose skis were just swiped...)

 

I'm now in Montana, most everyone leaves them unlocked here (some of my friends do lock them, but we're the exception).  Well, when the third dent showed up in my cable lock, I got a sturdier one.  The first one I know I got years back at Bridger, then suddenly there were two more this season.  I've changed to the much heftier cable (2.6 mm) on the Kryptonite R4.  It has more combo numbers (4) as well.  It's not as long as my old Recoiler lock which is a bit inconvenient but the much sturdier cable makes me happier. 

 

Yes, I've even locked demo rentals when I've had them.  Ya know the shop is not going to act like they are used skis, they're gonna gouge you.  It'd be worse than losing my own skis!

 

The other day, I came out from lunch and almost took the wrong skis myself.  Until I saw there was no lock on them, then I realized I was in the wrong aisle.

On Christmas night 1985, 70+ par of skis were stolen from Camelback...an obvious planned attack. They knew there would be a lot of brand new Christmas skis. 

 

I agree, a lock won't keep a thief from stealing skis that they want (or in many cases have an order for) but it will stop the casual petty crook or the, as mentioned, mistaken ski-dentity issues that are very common. 
 

post #39 of 43

My strategy is to lock my skis next to a more attractive unlocked pair. 

post #40 of 43

Not when there are 80 pair of skis, most newer than mine, all there for the taking. 
 

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*snip* lock is broke, skis are gone

post #41 of 43

don't put them next to Ghost's
 

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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

Not when there are 80 pair of skis, most newer than mine, all there for the taking. 
 


 


 



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My strategy is to lock my skis next to a more attractive unlocked pair. 


don't put them next to SH

post #42 of 43
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I never had anything recovered...not that I was expecting but I did have a glimmer of hope.  What's frustrating about this is that I was one who regularly (but not religiously until after the theft) locked my own skis up, and my skis were $250 less new than what I ended up paying for the demos.

post #43 of 43

Just wanted to thank you for sharing your story. After reading it and knowing that I would be demoing skis on my last trip I bought a small masterlock python cable lock and used it to lock them up for peace of mind.

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