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Snapped "old" Leki pole - any idea?

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Any idea for a Leki pole that snapped nicely in two pieces? Other than "throw it away and keep the good one as memory", of course.
It's in the carbon part (it's an old Trigger 1 grip, Ventrix Ultra 6.0 HTS series Alu-Carbon )...
Wrote to Leki in Germany and got told to go to the shop I bought 'em from...Yeah like if they remember what I bought from them about ten years ago. And even if they would...

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The break point is so "neat" that if the two halves are put together one almost doesn't notice it's broken :
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post #2 of 17

Get new polesbiggrin.gif  

 

I wouldn't risk a repair on a 10 year old set of poles that could then break again at the wrong time and cause an injury.  You can get a new set of Lekis on Promotive at a good discount as an EpicSki supporter.

 

Mike

post #3 of 17

Ice tip below the basket broke yesterday on a Leki pole I had. They were only a few weeks old.????? Mine will get replaced, you prolly aren't as lucky. Good luck.

post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MikeC View Post

Get new polesbiggrin.gif  

 

I wouldn't risk a repair on a 10 year old set of poles that could then break again at the wrong time and cause an injury.  You can get a new set of Lekis on Promotive at a good discount as an EpicSki supporter.

 

Mike


I already have biggrin.gif...Santa gave me a nice pair of Trigger S on Christmas 2009...
These were my back up pair, which I fitted with larger baskets (notice I havere moved those) and used to ski off-piste.

Now I keep changing basket on the only pair I have left, according the day "planned" main activity (piste or off-piste)...
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by slider View Post

Ice tip below the basket broke yesterday on a Leki pole I had. They were only a few weeks old.????? Mine will get replaced, you prolly aren't as lucky. Good luck.


One could buy Leki ice tips at the shop here.
But a whole, old and not in production anymore pole...mmmh, you're right, no chance.
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
Oh, btw I attempted a repair.I used a wooden rod (-balsa - wood used to build flying aeromodels) of approx 30 cm, slid it inside the pole, joined the two halves and then covered the area with
duct tape.
This restored the "form" but caused, despite the wood lightness, an "unbalanced" feeling when swinging (tried it at home, not while actually skiing) it.
And then it didn't hold for long, balsa is light but can't resist (at that diameter anyhow) transverse applied forces and almost immediately snapped when I applied some weight directly on the break-point-joined-again-albeit-temporrily. Le'ts call it a proof of concept...

Oh, just another reason why I wanted to try to repair or find a replacement for the broken one...
Notice that right below the handle the alu part of the pole is slightly bent? Never found another model made that way, and the extra "anticipation" it gave me when tipping was "pelasant" (to use just one word to describe the minor and nearly un-detectable, advantage it was giving me, in truth just a feeling, to a skier of my skills)
post #7 of 17

The Leki Stream poles also have the slight bend below the grip.  They are aluminum though.  You can still find the Stream available online.

 

Mike
 

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Oh, just another reason why I wanted to try to repair or find a replacement for the broken one...
Notice that right below the handle the alu part of the pole is slightly bent? Never found another model made that way, and the extra "anticipation" it gave me when tipping was "pelasant" (to use just one word to describe the minor and nearly un-detectable, advantage it was giving me, in truth just a feeling, to a skier of my skills)
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Notice that right below the handle the alu part of the pole is slightly bent? Never found another model made that way, and the extra "anticipation" it gave me when tipping was "pelasant" (to use just one word to describe the minor and nearly un-detectable, advantage it was giving me, in truth just a feeling, to a skier of my skills)

 

That ergonomic bend was big in the late '80s to early 90s; went out when pencil poles came in.
 

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Originally Posted by Nobody View Post

Oh, btw I attempted a repair.I used a wooden rod (-balsa - wood used to build flying aeromodels) of approx 30 cm, slid it inside the pole, joined the two halves and then covered the area with
duct tape.
This restored the "form" but caused, despite the wood lightness, an "unbalanced" feeling when swinging (tried it at home, not while actually skiing) it.
And then it didn't hold for long, balsa is light but can't resist (at that diameter anyhow) transverse applied forces and almost immediately snapped when I applied some weight directly on the break-point-joined-again-albeit-temporrily. Le'ts call it a proof of concept...
 


Yeah, with a break like that you need something (a sleeve) with high tensile strength (read:metal) on the outside of the pole. 

 

Anything you put on the inside is going to be heavy and weak.



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Originally Posted by slider View Post

Ice tip below the basket broke yesterday on a Leki pole I had. They were only a few weeks old.????? Mine will get replaced, you prolly aren't as lucky. Good luck.



Ironically, those are also much easier to repair.

post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 
Well I went back and wrote again to Leki, obtaining another "No thank you" reply, also replying that the model was out of production and they were sellimg only pairs of poles...

I was ready to let it go and dispose of the thing but then...I bought a ski magazine and lo and behold, there it was an advertisement from leki about their Venom -S hybrid (alu-carbon)
new pole model and how it was used by the racers at the latest World Championships in Garmisch...
Identical construction w/o the ergo bend, the new trigger instead of the old and of course the Leki red/black/yeallowcolours iunstead of all gray...price ...139.95 Euro !!!!!
Incensed I told myself I had to find a way to repair it not for the money but if for nothing else as a way to say "stuff it, guys" to them.
So...a few weeks later the inline roller speed skating racing season began...
"Old" acquaintances renovated and while talking to some of the racers...I got pointed out to one particular friend who did build his own carbon shoes...
Few days after that, talking ot the friend I discovered he still had some carbon shjeets leftover and we convened to meet at his house on a sat afternoon..
Found a small piece of alu rod, about one inch long (in truth the length was about 8, but we ended up using only a small portion) of the right diameter to act as internal reinforcement, few leftover sheets, glue (resin?) for carbon and...the pole is almost as if new...
Picture to come soon.
post #11 of 17

Your love of these old Leki poles, and your determination to fix them , should be enogh for Leki to give you a new set and use you in an advertisement.ski.gif

post #12 of 17

If you like the handles put them on a new pair. ( use electrical tape wraped around shaft if handle holes to large) Ski trucks might have a used pole that is same.

Any chips in carbon poles use epoxy glue to fill in

post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 
It's not a question of Ioving those poles, rather, an exercise in determination, I wanted to prove to myself once again that I am capable of setting to a task an seeing it to a successful end (probably my family and work background has done that to me...)
So, here's the pictures,


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it's a crude job, I don't plan to fill in the little unevenness of the surface and to paint it, that'll be evidence of the repair and a thing to chat about on the lift...

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post #14 of 17

Hey, I know where you can find yourself one (1) perfect carbon pole...

post #15 of 17
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Hey, I know where you can find yourself one (1) perfect carbon pole...

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post #16 of 17

I'll go take a look again this weekend. There might not be any snow in that area right now (though the top of the mountain has been skiing GREAT).

post #17 of 17

Very nice repair job, let us know how it skis!

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