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Anyone else using One Ball Jay?

post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 

I recently waxed my skis with One Ball Jay ( all-temp ) and didnt notice much of a change if any.  Thoughts and bashings appreciated :)  The tuning guy at my local shop said it was good stuff for our up and down climate, but I'm not too impressed.

post #2 of 7

 

<shrug>  Not enough info.     What sort of change were you expecting?

 

FWIW, OBJ used to sell some nice brushes under their brand. 

post #3 of 7

Well, I have used their stuff and think they do a good job overall.  I know they put a lot into the process and are pretty dedicated when it comes to making a quality product.  My buddy did a tour of their factory a couple years ago and posted it online: 

 

http://www.snowrev.com/Features/All/Factory-Check-One-Ball-Jay

 

From that tour, he gave me some wax and have tried it out.  I liked it, and I know my friends whose boards I did liked it as well.  Comparing it to other wax is a little hard since it is condition specific.  Compared to other wax for the same conditions though, it seems just fine.  (Personally, I have been converted to some Purple Race Base Maplus wax from Slidewright as the core of my lineup to cover broad conditions as well as durability but I digress)

 

As comprex pointed out, the original post didn't have a lot of details.  I am not sure if you are an experienced waxer or what the story is.  My observations though of most people who start out waxing use too much wax (wasting it during scraping) and they leave too much on.  Scraping and brushing the wax is really what makes skis / boards seem to fly for me.  Leave too much on, it acts as more of a drag until it is worn off.  Since leaving too much on usually also means it is uneven, many times by the time the excess is worn away, there are areas that are dry and unprotected as well. 

 

Let us know some more info and we will see what we can do to help. 

post #4 of 7
Thread Starter 

Some more info.... The wax I used was One Ball Jay BioGreen soy wax, all temp.

I did notice after riding twice that my skis felt quicker, so maybe i didn't get enough of the wax off my bases or just didn't brush them right? I am new to the whole waxing deal, but I'll continue doing my own until I perfect it. I have found a lot of useful info on this site about the process since I waxed them and hopefully next time I like the results better. Any hints tips etc. are welcomed. Great forum to join so far, I like that it isn't 99% BS and thread bashing!!

post #5 of 7

 

OK.

 

 

If by "riding twice" you mean 'two runs top to bottom'  then there is good reason to think you still had surface wax on the ski bases.   

 

Now, for two runs (esp. on hills less than 1500 vertical)  to make that much of a difference, and then no notable improvement  for the rest of the day, tells me that the wax you're using is on the soft side for the conditions.    It may be that you're skiing on fresh manmade snow or it may be that your skis were quite warm when they hit snow for the first time (which would make any surface wax act softer and grippier), but consider moving to a harder (i.e. labeled for "cold temps") rather than a "universal" wax for your next purchase.

 

 

If by "riding twice" you mean 'two day trips of 4 hours' skiing, or more,  each'  then there is really good reason to think you still had surface wax on the ski bases, but the wax is probably quite good for the conditions.  (edit: by "quite good" I here mean durability-wise, you may want to consider something more specifically lubricating like  a formulation with a moly, a graphite, a perfluoro or other lubricating additive)

post #6 of 7
Thread Starter 

comprex,

 

by ride twice i meant two seperate days. i had a fresh wax for our snowshoe trip and normally being the faster guy of the group i just felt like my skis were a little slower, not grabby or anything, i just expected to have an edge on my buddies with my skis freshly waxed while their's weren't.  after snowshoe i went to the local speed bump and my skis actually seemed faster on a much smaller hill. I appreciate all the advice guys, and i am going to try some more specific temp. wax and see how i like it.

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Originally Posted by ohio blows View Post

comprex,

 

by ride twice i meant two seperate days. i had a fresh wax for our snowshoe trip and normally being the faster guy of the group i just felt like my skis were a little slower, not grabby or anything, i just expected to have an edge on my buddies with my skis freshly waxed while their's weren't.  after snowshoe i went to the local speed bump and my skis actually seemed faster on a much smaller hill. I appreciate all the advice guys, and i am going to try some more specific temp. wax and see how i like it.

 

To my point then, it is very likely that the wax was not scraped and brushed out enough.  It could have seemed faster the second day because it finally started to wear down.  Brushing this stuff out is huge.  The wax should be IN your bases and not so much ON them. 
 

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