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post #62 of 78

yahoo !!  Alta on fri-sat-sun-mon- , Snowbird tuesday . 

 

God I hope it doesn't warm up too much.....

 

Now if I can only get my 14 YO son to hike up to the baldy chutes. (lazy azz...lol)

 

BTW... Alta's heaviest snow is better than most resorts best snow .

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yahoo !!  Alta on fri-sat-sun-mon- , Snowbird tuesday . 

 

God I hope it doesn't warm up too much.....

 

Now if I can only get my 14 YO son to hike up to the baldy chutes. (lazy azz...lol)

 

BTW... Alta's heaviest snow is better than most resorts best snow .



I would bet money that doesn't open anytime soon, there is a rain crust that a lot of snow can't bond to so it keeps sliding, there were huge avies up there last week.

 

Chutes haven't opened since Christmas

post #64 of 78

Dam !! I was afraid of that !   How about Devils Castle ?

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Devils Castle does open often, usually 1 or 2 days after a storm, depending on demand, wind/snow conditions ect.

 

Wind picks up and all those runes close. All the runs were open one day and it was 2 days after fresh snow so a lot of snow was getting blown into ballroom and devie's and they had to close a few of the runs facing North

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And like 4 years ago when i was 10 there was a nice avalanche up on the right side of Baldy that came down pretty far (I was in the cloud at the end actually)

 

 

 

It had came down past where they had closed off cuz it was a lot bigger than expected. Have Fun!

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Any thoughts on this????
 



 



My thoughts....bad idea.  You're not ready, IMHO.  Stick to inbounds for a while.  Backcountry is for experts, not someone who was skiing blues a couple months ago.

 

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Ok thanks, I'll maybe see if I could like next Feb or something.

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It IS a balance issue.  It's ALWAYS a balance issue in every type of snow.  You can't do very much when you are out of balance.  Bouncing works, but is not really the "best" way to ski powder.  When I first learned, I bounced like a bunny.  Not so much these days as I have better skills and a bigger bag of tricks to use.  I'll admit to using a pair of S7s this year, but learned to ski powder on a pair of 205 Rossi 7Gs.  IMO fat ski are a crutch...  I'm not above using a crutch as it's really fun and the fat skis make it easier, but they are not necessary and I don't use them on every powder day.
 


We have 4 PSIA demo team members at our resort and I can state my observations are that you can ski any snow with a narrower ski. That doesn't mean anyone can though. I have gotten so I can ski a 82-85mm in just about anything with a variety of turn shapes but, on a real day I have more fun on my Katana's.

   As most things in life, be careful who's advice you listen to, try to find someone whose technique you admire and learn from them, more than once people have posted examples of really awful skiing here as proof of their ideas. There are many here that REALLY know their stuff but, some that chime in with quackery or old-school ideas that aren't as helpful as more progressive ideas.

  There are some new technique trends that work well with new ski designs but, continue to try to build your skills around the fundamentals and you will go far and be admired by many.

 

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We have 4 PSIA demo team members at our resort and I can state my observations are that you can ski any snow with a narrower ski. That doesn't mean anyone can though. I have gotten so I can ski a 82-85mm in just about anything with a variety of turn shapes but, on a real day I have more fun on my Katana's.

   As most things in life, be careful who's advice you listen to, try to find someone whose technique you admire and learn from them, more than once people have posted examples of really awful skiing here as proof of their ideas. There are many here that REALLY know their stuff but, some that chime in with quackery or old-school ideas that aren't as helpful as more progressive ideas.

  There are some new technique trends that work well with new ski designs but, continue to try to build your skills around the fundamentals and you will go far and be admired by many.

 

 

 

you cant ski any snow on narrow ski if your demo team member.

 

sorry but I there is stuff we have here right now that is unpossible on all but the fatter most rockered skis.
 

 

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you cant ski any snow on narrow ski if your demo team member.

 

sorry but I there is stuff we have here right now that is unpossible on all but the fatter most rockered skis.
 

 

 

Unpossible for any skier in the entire world? 

 

I would suggest that it is unpossible for you to say something like that with any degree of certainty.

 

post #72 of 78

You are wrong, maybe you missed the part about me being there. What makes you think that there is any harder snow to ski in PA than in  our notoriously maritime snowpack on Mt.Hood? I'd venture to say you probably don't even know what really challenging snow is. I had a friend from philly out this week and it almost broke him. We just got 4 feet of barely freezing snow this week, and if we're lucky it won't rain on it.
 

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you cant ski any snow on narrow ski if your demo team member.

 

sorry but I there is stuff we have here right now that is unpossible on all but the fatter most rockered skis.
 

 



 

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You are wrong, maybe you missed the part about me being there. What makes you think that there is any harder snow to ski in PA than in  our notoriously maritime snowpack on Mt.Hood? I'd venture to say you probably don't even know what really challenging snow is. I had a friend from philly out this week and it almost broke him.
 

Not that I always agree with BWPA's blanket statements, but on this on, I'd venture to say you're wrong.

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Or clarity.

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Unpossible for any skier in the entire world? 

 

I would suggest that it is unpossible for you to say something like that with any degree of certainty.

 



 

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You could be right but, it is my understanding that he went from Utah to PA. If that is accurate I believe I am correct, and being from Seattle you should know that.

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Not that I always agree with BWPA's blanket statements, but on this on, I'd venture to say you're wrong.



 

post #76 of 78

Um..in the meantime, I heard that the Castle was fabulous today. It was unpossible for me to get there....     wink.gif

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You could be right but, it is my understanding that he went from Utah to PA. If that is accurate I believe I am correct, and being from Seattle you should know that.



 


I ski back country snow conditions nearly every day, in stowe. that is wide range of whats good, great, meh and holy shit I might die. I have also skied with current and former national and eastern demo teams and can tell you flat out that I have seen them faulter in weird snow conditions on skis that are better suited for groomer skiing in the safe resort.  I can also tell you that the guy I respect the most in this game skis on fun shape skis almost exclusively now because he would rather dictate to the mountan than the other way around.

 

so what you have friend from philly? he doesnt skis everyday seeking out un groomed snow.

 

and yes right now the 3 inches of breakable crust on a 12 inch soft base that is passable but far from fun  on Katanas, s7s, and bent chentler isnt passable by anyone on sub 85mm skis(or hell sub 100mm skis). If it was wide open I am sure people like rogan and sogard could own it on their mid fat but it aint open, its tight and each turn counts and is always a different shape.

 

None of you guys will ever come skiing here because you have no idea what is here, or how truly difficult it can be, and how much of blast it is on the right day. Anyone who doubts me gets a free lift ticket for the day and free guided tour of stowe. Thats how confinement I am that I am right on ski choice for what we have around here.

 

post #78 of 78

I've skied with Sogard and Schanzenbaker (Sogard is the PSIA Demo team coach, Schanzenbaker is a 2 time national demo team member).  They have narrow skis, and they have wide skis.  They have tools.  They use tools.

 

I skied the PowderCat with Schanzenbaker.  He highly recommended that I rent a wider ski for the cat.  My normal ski is a MX98.  He wanted me on something 115+.  And Schanzy was on his 120+ skis.  I'm not an intermediate skier; in fact, I'd say I'm a level 9 skier.  It was the first time I've skied anything wider than 98.  The wider ski just dials down the variable snow.  We had bottomless powder, we also had some wind affected snow as well.  I hardly noticed the difference between the two.

 

Could I have skied that snow with my MX98's or even my Fisher GS skis?  Absolutely.  Even the wind affected wouldn't have been that much of a problem (well, maybe on the GS skis).  Of course, it wasn't the 2 inches of breakable crust that Bush was chatting about.  But the rockered skis I picked (I think they were a pair of Armada ARV's) simply removed the variable snow from the equation and allowed me to focus on deep snow technique.

 

I think Josh is exactly right.  It is silly to use a front-side groomer ski in deep snow conditions, particularly for folk who are trying to learn to ski powder.  Can it be done?  Sure.  Can you learn?  Sure.  But you will learn a lot quicker, and have a lot more fun, using a tool that is appropriate to the task.

 

Lots of folk seem to think that because they've seen high level ski instructors ski deeper snow on narrow skis that that is what they do all the time.  I can tell you that some of those very instructors, whom some folk on this board seem to think always ski a SL or GS sk,i actually own and ski skis that are in excess of 110 underfoot.  In fact, part of the US Demo teams demo at Interski (the international confab of ski instructors that took place in January) was showing what the wider fun shape skis do and how to incorporate them into ski instruction.(!)  Kinda telling given some of the presumptions that are present in this thread.

 

Those ARV's opened my eyes to what a really wide ski can do to really challenging variable snow conditions. I ski a fair bit of wind slab/affected snow at Breckenridge.  I've noticed that those on wide (115+) skis can have less issues than those on narrower skis.  I was able to ski a section of the Y chutes a couple of weeks ago with flow and power that the instructor in my group could not.  He was on a 80 underfoot ski.  Granted, he's not a Demo team member, but he didn't attack the snow like you have to to ski that crap with a narrow ski.  Learning how to do so on a wide ski makes it more likely you'll have the package of technique to do so on a narrower ski.

 

Mike

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