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Lightweight adjustable bindings?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

Light weight for all things skiing is critical. I know there is debate on this claim - I take it as gospel.

 

Last night I was setting up some K2 Burnin Luv skis for a friend. Oh my, they were heavy! The bindings were not light and the mounting tracks made the whole setup outrageously heavy.

 

I have some Volkl Race Tigers (short little slalom skis) with some fancy all way adjustable race bindings. For such a tiny ski, I can barely lift them. I got a pair of a slightly older similar Volkl race skis (with the flat top) and mounted normal bindings (lightweight plastic upper recreational style) and was shocked by how much lighter the skis are. My wife loved the setup.

 

A couple of years ago I got some Atomic race skis with adjustable bindings. I loved being able to move the boot placement and being able to adjust for different boots. But the bindings were really heavy. I found the spot I liked and replaced the Atomics with some light weight Salomons Wow! What a difference in performance.

 

One or two grams is not noticeable. But it seems that many of the bindings that you can adjust a lot are pounds heavier than the lightest bindings. I don't need on hill adjustment capability, I just don't want to drill tons of holes in the skis. But I want to be able to move things around (either to change ski characteristics or to fit different boot sizes). A plate that has various holes would be fine - as long as it's light.

 

What bindings are light and adjustable? Which is the absolute lightest?

 

Eric

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Originally Posted by eleeski View Post

Light weight for all things skiing is critical. I know there is debate on this claim - I take it as gospel. You shouldn't. There is a reason those SL skis are heavy, it's not by accident.

 

What bindings are light and adjustable? Which is the absolute lightest?

 

Eric

Tyrolia Railflex RF11 or RFL9 are very light and very easy to adjust.

 

Dynafit TLT Rental would win hands down as the lightest binding with adjust ability (6 mondo point sizes), about 500grams. Of course it requires a tech-fit compatible boot, so probably not the answer you are looking for.


 

post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the reply.

 

I don't race, I like to bump. I'm also old so I ski slower and can't throw heavy skis around as well. Even if you need weight somewhere, adding lead where it will do the most good is better than carrying weight in the wrong places.

 

I spent a lot of money on my first string skis. My Goode skis are superlight and I love the feel of the light skis. But you aren't supposed to drill too many holes in the Goodes for structural reasons. So I can't play with any binding or boot settings.

 

By comparison, how much do Salomon Titanium bindings weigh?

 

Silly question, what is a tech fit boot? Are my Full Tilt boots compatible?

 

Eric

post #4 of 14

No, FullTilt boots are not. This is a Dynafit TLT Speed:

 

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This is a 'Tech-Fitting' boot (see the metal insert at the toe?) it's really light, by the way:

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post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 

Cool!

 

Do they feel like "real" ski boots or more like tele boots? Will they work well in the bumps? Should I switch to this system?

 

I appreciate the info!

 

Eric

post #6 of 14

Eric, Dynafit and other "tech" bindings and the above LaSportiva boots are for back country off piste earn your turns ski touring. There are durability, performance and safety compromises you'll need to accept, especially more so if using them mostly on groomers which isn't what they're intended for.

 

The Dodge ski boot or Apex would be a better choice for Alpine resort use: 

 

http://dodgeskiboots.com/Index.htm

 

www.apexsportsgroup.com

 

 

The Marker Squire is lighter than most alpine bindings:

 

www.markerusa.com/bindings-squire.php

 

- followed by the Salomon Z10 TI for women and the Z12 TI

 

www.salomon.com/us/product/z12-ti.html

 

 

post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by eleeski View Post

Cool!

 

Do they feel like "real" ski boots or more like tele boots? Will they work well in the bumps? Should I switch to this system?

 

I appreciate the info!

 

Eric

 

Real ski boots work great in bumps.
 

post #8 of 14
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Real ski boots work great in bumps.
 


I heard tell Voile hardwires are pretty light too.

post #9 of 14

Eric, they're putting you on, ha,ha, lol, lets get a rise out of the guy. No, tech bindings aren't a very good choice for bumps, don't even think about it.

If you want a AT type boot for the lighter weight look for models with interchangeable Alpine DIN soles. The 2012 Dynafit Titan Ultralight could be a good one?? I think some of the Atomic Alpine boots are on the lighter side as well. Really though the best advice was already given to you, go with a boot that fit's over weight. If you happen to fit a lighter model, great, if not save the idea for the next time, something better always comes along.

Btw, i don't know anything about the above alpine boots i linked for you, only put them out there so you'd know the options since they're in the same $$ range as those LaSportivia's.

post #10 of 14

1)  If you want lightweight, check out the Apex Ski boot: http://www.apexsportsgroup.com/  .  When I hit my late 60's a boot like that might become interesting.

 

2) Don't discount demo bindings.  The Schizo Demo is actually lighter and more adjustable than the regular Marker (although lighter bindings certainly exist).

 

3) The lightest skis tend to be made out of grass (bamboo) and/or have carbon fiber in them.  For some reason, I never loved any carbon fiber ski on a frozen-hard surface, but some are very light (like Goode skis).

post #11 of 14
I was skiing bumps today on my dynafit comforts + shaman + radiums no problem today. I am also they guy who broke the pair of said dynafits hitting jumps in the park the other week so go figure.

Actually if you are into weight I would definitely consider titans and maybe the Marker F12 tours or even griffons or barons.
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 

Good information. I need to hands on look at some of the bindings and mounting patterns. Maybe I can NASCAR drill out even more weight.

 

Were Spademan bindings light?

 

Eric

post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by eleeski View Post

Good information. I need to hands on look at some of the bindings and mounting patterns. Maybe I can NASCAR drill out even more weight.

 

Were Spademan bindings light?

 

Eric



Yes.  I think Dr. Spademan died last year.

 

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post #14 of 14

I have a pair of Salomon Z12ti bindings on my Stockli Laser SC.  The Z12ti is only 1714g per pair.

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