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plug booters, lace-up liner question

post #1 of 16
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In spite of relatively little use, I notice that the heel edge of my boot liner where the rubber sole meets the leather is starting to get shredded because of putting my feet in and out of the boots with the liners tied to my feet.   Do you all do the same?  

 

When I first got these boots, Head 150RD, I couldn't get my feet into them without bunching up the liner, and since they are lace up it seemed like a no brainer.   I never use heat to take off my boots, I just muscle them on and off.

 

There is an area inside the boot cuff, that has some protrusions that has to do with the stiffness setting bolts on the opposite side that I am pretty sure is the reason for the liner getting chewed up.   I put some duct tape on the liner for some added protection but that came off immediately. 

post #2 of 16

You can use Barge Cement and glue a piece  Tricot Nylon from the sole over the heel area.  Also try using Baby Powder on the liner before getting into the shell.  Do you use a Hot Bag?  That will make the biggest difference and help you open the shell for easy entry.

post #3 of 16

dremel away sharpish things from the shell

post #4 of 16

The sharp is from the back of the bolts, not shell.

 

Yes you put your foot in the liner, lace it up, then shove the whole foot/liner in the shell.

 

Yes everyone gets those little tears.  Some put duct tape over the bolts....some use a teflon spray on the inside of the shell to aid in/out.  Most dont worry about it...it gets torn quickly, but has never gotten worse.  Once the part that hits the bolts is torn away from the liner...it cant get worse really...it is only 2-3mm at most and is just the rubber bit coming up past the heel edge...right?

post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by Skidude72 View Post

The sharp is from the back of the bolts, not shell.

 

Yes you put your foot in the liner, lace it up, then shove the whole foot/liner in the shell.

 

Yes everyone gets those little tears.  Some put duct tape over the bolts....some use a teflon spray on the inside of the shell to aid in/out.  Most dont worry about it...it gets torn quickly, but has never gotten worse.  Once the part that hits the bolts is torn away from the liner...it cant get worse really...it is only 2-3mm at most and is just the rubber bit coming up past the heel edge...right?

 

Correct, but it is the boot itself not the bolt, the metal bits are well recessed.   I think I might take Eric's suggestion and grind away the guilty plastic....just didnt want to compromise any structural integrity at the spine of the boot.
 

post #6 of 16

Use a flapper wheel on a dremel tool to do the job to leave a smooth finish.

post #7 of 16

I had problems with the boot boards breaking, no replacements so had to fix them with epoxy. Finally got new boot boards but they also broke.

They have about the same strength as a cookie and are loose iside the shell. If they move slighty when sliding your foot in they break.

Finally I gave up took they laces out of the liners and leave them in the boot.

Franky I don't notice any performance deterioration.

post #8 of 16

It probably wouldn't prevent them from breaking, but I get long enough screws for my lifters so I can go into the boot board so it's screwed to the shell. Definitely helps make for a more efficient connection.

post #9 of 16

I leave the liner in the shell most of the time, heated boot bag in the morning, muscle in the afternoon. Changed the stock laces to elastic laces which helps keep the tongue in place on exit.

post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
There is an area inside the boot cuff, that has some protrusions that has to do with the stiffness setting bolts on the opposite side that I am pretty sure is the reason for the liner getting chewed up.   I put some duct tape on the liner for some added protection but that came off immediately. 

 

I used to have the same problem.  Now I use metal foil duct tape to tape over any protrusions inside my boot that rub the liner.  It works far better than regular duct tape because it provides a slippery, low friction surface that doesn't abrade the liner, and doesn't peel off easily.

post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by exracer View Post



 

I used to have the same problem.  Now I use metal foil duct tape to tape over any protrusions inside my boot that rub the liner.  It works far better than regular duct tape because it provides a slippery, low friction surface that doesn't abrade the liner, and doesn't peel off easily.



Good idea, I happen to have a roll of that stuff, will give that a try before I do any grinding.  Thanks!

post #12 of 16

Richie as you know I am in the Raptor 150 also.

 

I use Food Grade Silicone spray. The same thing used to lubricate Dry Suit (diving and water skiing) seals. Spray the inside of the spine and the heel of the liner.I use the spray and I bring a small compact hairdryer with me and heat the liner before I put it on and then heat the shell with the hairdryer (particularly the overlap ears and the top of the shell and I slide right in!

post #13 of 16

For those of you using lace-up liners and experiance wear and tear on the lower part of the heel thru repeated inserting of liner, I have fixed this problem on my Head 130 RD with a product called Tuff-Toe. A 2 part epoxy/polyester? Available from shoe repair shops. This product sticks to almost anything and is near indestructable. Carefully extrude a mix from the dispenser and smear on worn area and after curing the problem is fixed. I have used it on the soles of my wife's ski boot heels and they show little wear. It retains flexability and doesn't get brittle

post #14 of 16

  I just try to get my boots warm, spread open the shell as much as possible (laces loose of course), gently pull up on the tounge, and work my foot in...takes a while and it hurts too, but it works. I have the salomon x3 lab medium btw...definitely a TIGHT squeeze eek.gif

post #15 of 16

I will ususally throw my shells infront of a fireplace for a minute or two if there is one available at the time, not too close just enough to take the edge off. Usually works pretty well, I have not had many problems with my liners deteriorating much on the heel area on my old Dobermans, but will definitely be looking into that shoe care product mentioned above for my new Raptor 130RDs. I think a heated bag would be a nice xmas present though to solve this problem for you

post #16 of 16
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Originally Posted by uboom View Post

I had problems with the boot boards breaking, no replacements so had to fix them with epoxy. Finally got new boot boards but they also broke.

They have about the same strength as a cookie and are loose iside the shell. If they move slighty when sliding your foot in they break.

Finally I gave up took they laces out of the liners and leave them in the boot.

Franky I don't notice any performance deterioration.

I used to break footboards all the time in my Tecnica Infernos.  After going through the second set my boot went in back and got the equivalent of that boot in the freestyle version and swapped the footboards.  Most freestyle boards use a softer more flexible board that is less likely to break.  I haven't had any issues with the new ones yet.  

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