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How to protect bindings and lungs from wax during waxing?

post #1 of 11
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How do all of you keep your bindings free of wax during waxing?  It seems to me that hot-scraping would be especially problematic (as molten wax would get on/in binding structure... and I know from experience that dry scraping also creates a good mess and coated my bindings with dry wax bits.

 

About the lungs... racewax.com says that heating flouro to 300C creates a "poisonous gas."  That freaked me, and disappointed me as I just ordered four 40g bars of their T-series flouro, which must be ironed into the base following room-temp smearing.  Do you all own N99 half masks for use during waxing?  (I saw such a mask used in the iTunes "Truth in Motion" video).

post #2 of 11

Are you applying too much wax? I have never had the problems that you mentioned.

Keep iron temperatures only hot enough for each wax. Too hot is bad. Only wax in well ventilated areas. Wash your hands good after handling flouro wax.

post #3 of 11

Unless you are waxing for the US ski team I wouldnt worry too much about the fumes provided you are in a well ventilated or large area.  You are exposed to poisonous gases on a daily basis yet here you are.  But if you would rather be safe than sorry, your local home improvement stores have masks/breathing filters that are even certified to protect you against radioactive isotopes and fallout...I happen to have one.

 

As far as wax on the bindings, you might be using too much if you are getting wax pouring down the sides.   I tape off the sidewalls of my skis with purpose made tape allowing the wide tape to shield the bindings from any wax that might trickle down.

post #4 of 11

300C????????  Dude...you only need to melt the stuff, I dont know what the temp is, but I set the iron usually as low as possible.  If wax lands on me, it is at most an annoyance, not a 3rd degree burn!

 

Also as others wrote above, you only need to create a thin layer of wax on the skis, you are not icing a cake.  Sounds like you are using way too much....

post #5 of 11

Use 2" wide masking tape and adhere to the sidewall the length of the binding on either side.

 

Using too little wax has its own issues. I'd rather have adeqate wax and clean the sidewall than the alternatives.

post #6 of 11

I agree that you're probably using too much wax.

 

As for the fumes, normal waxing temps won't hit 300C if you're using a waxing iron with temperature control.  If you use a clothes iron on high, I do think it can get that hot.  I personally just stay away from flouro waxes so I don't need to worry about that aspect.  I'm not exactly in the world cup, I don't think I need the highest tech waxes.

post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by BoredAtBMBW View Post

 

About the lungs... racewax.com says that heating flouro to 300C creates a "poisonous gas."  That freaked me, and disappointed me as I just ordered four 40g bars of their T-series flouro, which must be ironed into the base following room-temp smearing.  Do you all own N99 half masks for use during waxing?  (I saw such a mask used in the iTunes "Truth in Motion" video).


To save your health, you should package up all your flouro and send it to me as soon as possible.   wink.gif


Seriously,  unless you are superheating the flouro, you should be fine.  The Swix website has a write-up about this issue, if you want to research it a bit more.

 

post #8 of 11

300˚ C is really really hot, equals 572˚ F. 

That temp can take a chicken from raw to BBR (Burn Beyond Recognition, not the new Salomon ski) in no time flat. Same goes for your skis.

Verified the chicken part with wife. Ski part from experience.

 

Most ski waxes are applied between 110˚ C & 150˚ C, bias towards the low side.   

 

Following is a link for general guide to wax & temp.

 

http://www.skiwax.ca/tp/irons.php

post #9 of 11


Your iron is incapable of 300 C so there is no worries; furthermore the type of fluoro in my T wax is non volatile, this is a different form of fluoro than the other waxes like Swix use.  You cannot vaporize this fluoro even at max iron temps.  There is no fluoro inhalation danger from the T series wax.

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How do all of you keep your bindings free of wax during waxing?  It seems to me that hot-scraping would be especially problematic (as molten wax would get on/in binding structure... and I know from experience that dry scraping also creates a good mess and coated my bindings with dry wax bits.

 

About the lungs... racewax.com says that heating flouro to 300C creates a "poisonous gas."  That freaked me, and disappointed me as I just ordered four 40g bars of their T-series flouro, which must be ironed into the base following room-temp smearing.  Do you all own N99 half masks for use during waxing?  (I saw such a mask used in the iTunes "Truth in Motion" video).

post #10 of 11
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Your iron is incapable of 300 C so there is no worries; furthermore the type of fluoro in my T wax is non volatile, this is a different form of fluoro than the other waxes like Swix use.  You cannot vaporize this fluoro even at max iron temps.  There is no fluoro inhalation danger from the T series wax.


Also open flame is a huge no-no, ie dripping, burning ptex repairs or base welding with too hot soldering irons or torches, cigarettes, etc...

 

ALWAYS PROVIDE GOOD VENTILATION.

post #11 of 11

For bindings just use tape glued to side of ski on are where bindings are. But you don't really need to bother all that much. It doesn't hurt your binding, but it saves you some extra scratching (if you really do it :)) 

For lungs, I use gas mask with A2-B2-E2-K1-HG-P3 filter. Some people say you don't need it, and most likely it really won't kill you if you do pair or two every few days. But I got used to use it when I was still in WC waxing 20 or 30 pairs per day, and I still use it nowadays. As far as temperatures goes, 300c is waaaay over any reasonable temperatures. Normal waxes are heated somewhere up to 110 or 120c, and powders up to 140 or 150c. Officially fluor doesn't do any damage at those temperatures, but if you want to be on safe side for sure, get mask. It's quite cheap (50-100eur around here), so it won't kill you wallet :)

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