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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Two words so far. Ice fest.

Disappointing because it's currently the 16th and I have not seen a single snowflake since I've been here. I had one day of decent snow and that was on Friday when there were leftovers from the last snow they had on the 7th.

There was up to 8-14 inches forecast as of Monday for today and tomorrow (wed 16, TH 17). That forecast changed and now it looks like it's going to be an inch or two at best through when I leave on the 20th. It's Mostly due to high winds that will move the storm through quickly. I'm just seriously frustrated with this place right now. Feels like a waste of vacation time (already limited) and alot of money. Im sick of hiking and taking pics on the 40+ degree days weve had. I just want to ski. Hopefully things change.

I may or may not have an edit for this TR after the 20th. If there isn't anything, just assume it didn't get much better.
post #2 of 21

did you check out conditions up at GT?  3-7 predicted today through thursday.

 

Calling Bob here.......

post #3 of 21

I just got back from Jackson.  We skied Saturday  thru Monday.  I thought conditions were pretty good for not getting much snow for a while.  We spent a lot of time skiing the terrain below the Thunder Chair.  Mostly chalky edgeable snow.  One Sunday the wind was dropping snow into most of the north east facing chutes/runs over this ridge and it was skiing fantastic for the lack of recent snow fall.  We also skied a bunch under the Sublette Chair.  We stuck mainly to the upper mountain lifts and only rode the tram and gondola a few times.

 

Yeah the groomers and more southerly facing aspects were getting harder as the weekend progressed but if you look you can still find decent snow.  As the day progressed and the more southerly / east facing aspects got warmer we found some good corn skiing in there at times.

 

We definitely had a great time even with the lack of snow, we just had to work a little harder to find those pockets of better snow.

post #4 of 21
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Yeah. The snow on tower 3, hoops gap, paintbrush, and thunder bumps was ok, but everything on low mountain and all of apre vous was pretty crappy. And yes, it was edgeable, but even hard crust is technically edgable.

It's not a matter of ability to ski, it's just the pleasure of the skiing that's in question.

Today, I had a buddy get a ski caught on an ice chunk in tower 3 and he slid all the way from top to bottom at about 60mph. He couldn't arrest (due to the hardness of the chalky snow) and almost creamed the boulder on skiers left near the bottleneck at the bottom turn, then, while still going head first he got lucky and got caught up in a tree on the ridge above the 30-40' cliff on skiers right as you exit the chute. No injuries thankfully. Witnessing this was mind blowingly nervewracking. We skied that 3 time before, so again not a question of ability.

Yea, thunder chair is fun, and I love the double blacks, but after 3 40 degree days in a row, the same 800' of vert gets a tad boring. Especially for $91. Even the groomers were icy.

Getting some snow right now, but with 30 mph winds it'll be a qusestion of how long the storm sits around.
post #5 of 21

I see JHMR is showing 6" at the summit.  Not much but it's something.

 

Yeah I hear ya on the slide, it can be incredibly scary in some of those chutes if you go down becuase it's so hard to stop.  Even worse though is sometimes it is nearly impossible to miss the obstacles and cliffs.

 

On Monday we were eating at Redezvous at the top of the gondi.  While there we saw 3 people fall at the top of Corbets and slide all the way to the bottom.  All three of them went right over the both sets of rocks that are showing in the chute.  It was quite amazing that they all three got up after such a crazy slide.  Especially the two that started tumbling after catching air over those rocks.  I think they were lucky that those rocks are almost completely covered after so much snow early this year.

 

We were only out there three days.  The first day we sort of toured the mountain from Apres-Vous on over to Sublette and explored the trees and harder runs only a little bit.  The second day we hit everything off the Thunder Chair.  The third day we skied mostly off the Sublette chair and ventured back to the Thunder chair for a last couple of runs.  Seemed like a good mix over 3 days and we didn't repeat too many runs other than Paint Brush with a traverse into lower Toilet Bowl area.

 

I just had two friends get there on Tuesday so I hope you guys keep getting snow and the conditions improve for you guys.

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #6 of 21

I had a blast skiing on Sunday.  I was free skiing with my friend Mike Z for the first time this year.  We skied for about 4 hours and did mostly stuff on Thunder as Sublette was closed for wind.  We had a great run off the Tram through Ten Sleep and into the Expert Chutes.  We also did Tower 3, Hoops Gap, and a few variations of Riverton Bowl and Toilet Bowl.  The best was the two laps in Alta 1 that we accessed using the C-Pass Traverse.  I watched a guy I know take a very scary fall in there on the second lap, but the snow was great.  We rode the lift with Lagdawg.  Even the lower face that I skied on the way down wasn't terrible.  I took Monday off and Skied The King on Tuesday.  Yesterday I was surprised by how much the snow quality had deteriorated.  I taught a Tele lesson on the lower mountain and only skied briefly (tele) with my wife and some friends after lunch.  Didn't do anything North facing which should have been the best.  Sorry you're having a bad time.  I think thats on you though as the skiing on Sunday was fantastic and I would bet that it was good on Monday & Tuesday as well.  The problem yesterday was that sun went away and it stayed cold and everything I skied was hard.  Maybe the new snow will improve things.  I'm on my way up in the next few minutes.  Hope to see you up there and smiling.

post #7 of 21
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Its not that im having a bad time, but was just disappointed on how warm it got. I agree, sunday wasn't too bad, but it was 35 at summit and 42 at base on Monday. It pretty much turned everything to crap. Tuesday was also very warm. Wednesday was entirely thunder chair as everything was chunky.

Today was a bit better with the 6" we got, but alot of the lower mountain is still icy which makes the fresh not as much fun. I think another 6" would go a long way to improving the mountain. I found some really nice stuff off of the entrance way into the hobacks in the trees. Even Cheyenne gully (I think) wasn't too bad as long as you stayed high on skiers right. Only problem is tha it ends at lower sublette or the hobacks. Both are crap even with the snow. It's like being on a frozen tundra or otherworldly frozen planet out there. Seems like upper mountain trees are where it's at.
post #8 of 21

I was in Jackson the first week of the month and had similar conditions.  Of course its still fun but its so disheartening with all of that amazing terrain and really all that was worth skiing was the north facing stuff off of sublette and thunder.  It hadn't snowed for over a week when we got there and also got very warm.  It then promptly got cold...-30 in the valley, and most of the mountain turned to a coral reef for the rest of the week.  There was a chance of snow early on but it never materialized.  Finally, we got 6" on the last day.  Upper mountain was pretty good, north faces very good and lower mountain was tolerable, finally got to explore a little bit. 

 

I hate pre-planned ski trips, I don't know if I can do it anymore.  I seem to have the worst luck, skunked 3 out of the last 3 years.

post #9 of 21

I was on Thunder chair and watched your buddy eat it in Tower 3. Yellow jacket. Right? Saw him biff on the entry and slide, head first, down the skier's left side of the chute.  It looked pretty nasty. Got off and skied down to ampitheatre to see him climbing up a rock on the exit of the chute.  He looked ok and I saw ski patrol getting to the scene.  Looked like they extracted him with some ropes.  Glad he was okay.  That could have been REALLY bad. Just before, I was thinking that Tower 3 was looking a little too stout for my taste that day. Seeing the slide kept me out.  It's amazing how things firmed-up over a couple of days.  I had skied it the previous 4 days, and it was getting firmer each day. By Wednesday, falling was not a good option.   

post #10 of 21
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Originally Posted by Dr.Skinny View Post

I was on Thunder chair and watched your buddy eat it in Tower 3. Yellow jacket. Right? Saw him biff on the entry and slide, head first, down the skier's left side of the chute.  It looked pretty nasty. Got off and skied down to ampitheatre to see him climbing up a rock on the exit of the chute.  He looked ok and I saw ski patrol getting to the scene.  Looked like they extracted him with some ropes.  Glad he was okay.  That could have been REALLY bad. Just before, I was thinking that Tower 3 was looking a little too stout for my taste that day. Seeing the slide kept me out.  It's amazing how things firmed-up over a couple of days.  I had skied it the previous 4 days, and it was getting firmer each day. By Wednesday, falling was not a good option.   


Yep. He's the guy! I was actually below him then cut to skiers right side because I knew there were some exposed rocks down skiers left. It really was a nasty, yet lucky fall. I'm just glad I was skiing it aggressively enough so I wasn't below him when he fell.
post #11 of 21

Sorry to hear you've had less than ideal conditions while you've been here.   

 

I know it's no consolation, but I just got back from a couple of days at Snowbasin, and Wednesday was the very worst skiing I've ever experienced in over 25 years of skiing there.  Their conditions were somewhat similar to JH in that it got really warm early in the week and then that cold, windy storm came in.  By the end of the day on Wednesday, it was super-flat light, hard, icy snow, very windy, and they had closed all but two old chairlifts.  

 

Yesterday (Thursday) was much better after that fast-moving storm left 6" of new snow, but it still wasn't the kind of skiing I expect when I got to Snowbasin.  I go there once or twice every season and I really look forward to the trip because I like Snowbasin's mountain better than any of the Utah resorts.  So, in a way, I had essentially the same sort of experience you did in coming to Jackson. 

 

A friend here in JH who skis every day told me that Wednesday was far and away the worst day of the season.  That said, I thought the skiing was pretty darned good here (JHMR) this morning.

 

Sometimes you win the weather lottery and sometimes you lose.

post #12 of 21

Did you ski today?

post #13 of 21

Seriously hoping to win that weather lottery for my trip planned 3/17-3/21!

 

Looking forward to hearing from the rest of the members here too on current conditions. 

post #14 of 21

Bob - what's the local forecast saying for this week?  Although I now it can change almost daily, I checked Weather Channel and they are saying snow showers pretty much all week and into the weekend.  Arriving in Jackson around noon on Sunday, hoping it continues to dump through this week and into next.

post #15 of 21
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Did you ski today?


That would be yesterday.  Oh, my God it was good.  A little bit of a sleeper, although you can't call a powder day on the Sunday of President's Weekend a sleeper.  The 6am snow report showed something like 10", all but one of that since the lifts closed the day before.  By the time the lifts opened at 9, there was probably half again that much.  It could very well have been the best day of the year as the snow just kept on coming.

 

Today was amazing, as well.  Lots more snow.  We've had 35" last Wednesday.  Targhee did even better.  They've had 65" in the last 7 days, 34 inches in the last 24 hours.  

 



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Seriously hoping to win that weather lottery for my trip planned 3/17-3/21!

 

Looking forward to hearing from the rest of the members here too on current conditions. 


Current conditions are - ahem - very good.  I'm going to try to post some photos from today.  More snow on the way tomorrow through Wednesday.  March 17 is my wife's birthday.  It *always* snows a lot for her b-day.  wink.gif

 



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Bob - what's the local forecast saying for this week?  Although I now it can change almost daily, I checked Weather Channel and they are saying snow showers pretty much all week and into the weekend.  Arriving in Jackson around noon on Sunday, hoping it continues to dump through this week and into next.

That's what NOAA is saying as well. Fairly significant snowfall tomorrow through Wednesday, then snow showers the rest of the week.  Cloudy and fairly cold.  That's a good forecast.
 

post #16 of 21

Wife and I lost the lottery when we were there early in the month -- and I still wouldn't've missed it for the world!

post #17 of 21

to rub it (the lack of snow on our trip) in even more another buddy is there this week  in the perfect conditions

post #18 of 21

Frustration with lack of snow could be an interesting thread, or can you enjoy skiing if there's no fresh snow around?  Some people are able to enjoy things no matter what, others are not happy if there's no powder to be found.   I seem to be heading toward the latter category these days!

If I was there in conditions like skidude describes, I'd likely have been somewhat unhappy too.

 

I had nearly 2 weeks there from Jan 18-30 and while I didn't have anything super deep, with around 40" spread over the 1st week I was pretty fortunate to ski powder nearly the whole time.

post #19 of 21

you get what you get. I view the whole trip as an adventure including the flight there and back, the people you meet. crappy snow or not, you make the experience good or bad, its up to you.  Last August's trip to chile included food poisoning, a 2 AM return flight and virtually no snow and it was still a great trip for me.  

 

post #20 of 21
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you get what you get. I view the whole trip as an adventure including the flight there and back, the people you meet. crappy snow or not, you make the experience good or bad, its up to you.  Last August's trip to chile included food poisoning, a 2 AM return flight and virtually no snow and it was still a great trip for me.  

 


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post #21 of 21

Wherever you go, there you are!

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