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Mounting Vist Speedlock Plate

post #1 of 12
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I live in Southern California and ski Mammoth Mountain most of the time.  I'm looking for a reputable shop and ski tech that has a Vist mounting jig and will mount a Vist Speedlock plate to my skis.  Specifically, I'm looking for someone in either the Southern California or the Mammoth Lakes area.  I've done extensive forum searches on this site for this information and haven't turned up any leads.  I have talked with Tom Maneggia, US Rep for Vist products.  Sending my skis to him is an option, but he is on the East Coast and a bit costly to ship things back and forth coast to coast.  I've called a number of shops in the Mammoth area and most have not heard or dealt with Vist bindings or plates and they certainly don't have a mounting jig.  I called frequent posters and sponsors on this site - Start Haus, Tahoe area, and Dawgcathing, Oregon.  Both were friendly and courteous, but they were unable to help.

 

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.  

post #2 of 12

Send a pm to deliberate1 as he may be able to help you. He is the owner ( and proponent) of  Vist 614 Speedlock system bindings and plates that I owned. Included in the transaction was the paper mounting template for the plates and I recall that he either mounted them himself or did it with a friend. He could probably copy and fax the template.

 

It's very easy mounting the plate, just screws in, but, does require the special screws provided with the binding. Boot sole length adjustments are not required for the plate installation.

post #3 of 12

BF, As LP says, I have mounted two VIST plates (with the great assistance of (Vistman) without the the jig. I do have a paper template that makes it pretty easy to locate the plate mounting points. But it is only for the VIST TT plate. Different plates have different fixture points.

A copy of that is yours for the asking. PM if you want it.

David

post #4 of 12

Hey there all bears, I've been MIA for quite a while but what can I say...sometimes life gets in the way. It shouldn't, but it happens.

 

Any way, I was going to start a new thread but I guess this one ties into what I seek, which is info. on Vist plates and/or bindings.

 

I've been looking at the Vist site, mostly the plates, but their bindings as well. The tech. info. provided there is somewhat basic. The plate heights and the reference to what the plate is best used for wasn't that helpful to me. I'm looking more for meat and taters but their descriptions are more like salad with lite dressing....I'm still hungry!

 

How am I supposed to figure out what plate I want and/or what binding from what I see there? OIY! I'm not the sharpest tack in the box but sheesh!

If that site is any indication, can you imagine working on an Italian carburetor? My thinning hair would become nonexistent...

 

Are there any bears who can point me to a shop or Vist guru? Someone who knows the plates well and can make recommendations for matching up bindings?

 

My home mountain is Killington so the Vist US rep Bums Fan mentioned might be my guy but I've no clue on how to contact him. And does anyone know of any eastern shops selling the Vist products? Or any shops in the US for that matter?

 

These folks seem to have a whole host of nice products for skiing but dang, it's tough to find the goods....what's up with that?

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Hey there all bears, I've been MIA for quite a while but what can I say...sometimes life gets in the way. It shouldn't, but it happens.

 

Any way, I was going to start a new thread but I guess this one ties into what I seek, which is info. on Vist plates and/or bindings.

 

I've been looking at the Vist site, mostly the plates, but their bindings as well. The tech. info. provided there is somewhat basic. The plate heights and the reference to what the plate is best used for wasn't that helpful to me. I'm looking more for meat and taters but their descriptions are more like salad with lite dressing....I'm still hungry!

 

How am I supposed to figure out what plate I want and/or what binding from what I see there? OIY! I'm not the sharpest tack in the box but sheesh!

If that site is any indication, can you imagine working on an Italian carburetor? My thinning hair would become nonexistent...

 

Are there any bears who can point me to a shop or Vist guru? Someone who knows the plates well and can make recommendations for matching up bindings?

 

My home mountain is Killington so the Vist US rep Bums Fan mentioned might be my guy but I've no clue on how to contact him. And does anyone know of any eastern shops selling the Vist products? Or any shops in the US for that matter?

 

These folks seem to have a whole host of nice products for skiing but dang, it's tough to find the goods....what's up with that?


That is an easy one. You are just a modest drive to the Norse House near Stratton. That is where Tom, the US VIST distributer is. Call him up. Here is wnat he will recommend - the TT plate. I agree. It gives you the brilliant Speedlock system with instant lateral binding adjustment without affecting the ski flex. I have two of these plates and like them better than the Speedlock plate. Tom tells me that he puts the TT on everything, including his demos. I am sending him a pair o Kastle MX78's and he will do the mount for $150. I do not know what the bindings cost. The other cool thing about the TT is the custom fitted 4mm shim that you can put under the toe piece to flatten out the delta angle. Cost is about $12 and well worth it. No other model has this feature. Hope this helps. If you talk to Tom give him regards from the guy from Maine.
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Quote:That is an easy one. You are just a modest drive to the Norse House near Stratton. That is where Tom, the US VIST distributer is. Call him up. Here is wnat he will recommend - the TT plate. I agree. It gives you the brilliant Speedlock system with instant lateral binding adjustment without affecting the ski flex. I have two of these plates and like them better than the Speedlock plate. Tom tells me that he puts the TT on everything, including his demos. I am sending him a pair o Kastle MX78's and he will do the mount for $150. I do not know what the bindings cost. The other cool thing about the TT is the custom fitted 4mm shim that you can put under the toe piece to flatten out the delta angle. Cost is about $12 and well worth it. No other model has this feature. Hope this helps. If you talk to Tom give him regards from the guy from Maine.


Have you tried the MX 78's with a plate?  I've been thinking about adding one to mine.  I usually replace my skis every season or 2, but I have no interest in replacing my Kastles.  However if I can make a great ski even better, that would be cool.  Any downside to adding a plate?
 

 

post #7 of 12

I personally like the KTi plate more (if you can find one) but that's just me
 

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Have you tried the MX 78's with a plate?  I've been thinking about adding one to mine.  I usually replace my skis every season or 2, but I have no interest in replacing my Kastles.  However if I can make a great ski even better, that would be cool.  Any downside to adding a plate?
 

 



 

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RPTW, I have not skied the 78's with a VIST plate, or without for that matter. I bought mine used, a bit beat and cheap on Ebay. They came with a demo binding. Will th VIST's be better on these than the demo bindings? I imagine so. I have the TT plate on a pair of Hart Pulses, Hart Phoenix and the Speedlock plate on a pair of VIST TEAM RC's. The Phoenix and RC's are twin siblings from the same Italian Blossom factory. But with the two different plates, they feel different. The Speedlock plate makes the RC burlier and ski longer than their 174 cm length. Makes them, for me, not an all day ski. But the TT plate is not so rigid. It is comprised of two separate plates connected by two steel dowells that, I assume, flex with the ski. I really like the feel under foot. The plate gives you added height off the snow over a typical binding. I like that too. Last year, I booted out on a pair of Blizzard Supersonics and dislocated my shoulder/torn rot cuff. That is less likely to happen with the added plate height. And then there are the lateral adjustments you can make. The binding pieces can move along the plate in what must be 3 or 4mm increments. It makes a difference. I was having a hard time initiating the turn higher in the shape so I moved the bindings forward one click. Much easier to get a tighter turn radius. Then there is the 4mm shim I mention above which helped me get a more upright stance. And then is the economy and convenience of the VIST system. I need only one set of bindings for multiple pairs of skis. Makes traveling easier too.
So will this all work for you. Can't imagine why not. The added plate height, ability to fine tune boot position and shim adjustmenr could make you love your Kastles all over again. Hope this helps. Good luck.
David
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I personally like the KTi plate more (if you can find one) but that's just me
 



 


I looked into that too. It was going to be about $500 for the Kti. Since I am already invested in the VIST system, and like it, I decided on the TT plate.
RaceDude, curious which plate you tried and on which Kastle.
post #10 of 12

Haha yes sadly KTi's are made by Kastle, thus absurdly expensive.  

I've skied pretty much every Kastle out there (except some LX's) from this season and next season.  The KTi plate works best on the RX's and lower MX's like the 78, and 88 if you wanted.  I would assume it would also work on the LX, but I just haven't tried them out much.
 

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Originally Posted by RaceDude View Post

I personally like the KTi plate more (if you can find one) but that's just me
 



 




I looked into that too. It was going to be about $500 for the Kti. Since I am already invested in the VIST system, and like it, I decided on the TT plate.
RaceDude, curious which plate you tried and on which Kastle.


 

post #11 of 12

I wouldn't put a KTi on an LX, as far as Vists, a Speedlock Race would be fantastic. 

post #12 of 12

Hey, new into the Epic ski forum.   Just wanted to drop a note into this old post.  I have a Vist plate Jig with multiple templates and am located in the Portland Oregon.  This is not the paper Template, but the True Vist Jig.  I got mine thru the Colorado rep back some ten years ago.  I have mounted up some 8 to 12 plates over the years.   I would be willing to Rent out the jig, would need a deposit in Cash, plus a fee for use.   I'm not interested in doing any mounting for anyone, but will rent out the jig to others.  Contact me at derekhski@hotmail.com  Feb 2013

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