or Connect
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ask the Boot Guys › new boot fit questions and advice
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

new boot fit questions and advice

post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 

Hello Boot Guys (and Gals)

 

I have been searching for new boots since i figured out that my old boots are prob 2 sizes too large.... i shell fit them and they are way big...prob an 1.5inch behind foot...they are a 28/28.5 (325MM)...my feet are swimming in them now that they are packed out ...skiing is sloppy

 

i have a high arch/instep and slightly wide feet...

 

so lately i have been visiting the local ski shop(s) and they have put me into from a low of 25.5 Alpine fit to a high of 27-27.5 AT fit...prob is any boot i try puts my feet to sleep in like 15-20 mins...i just dont imagine skiing in them for 10 days to pack them out...the shops all guarentee the fit and will do what need be to make them work but i still dont trust them especially since my feet go numb....when i take off the boots i see hotspots on top of my arch...

 

on friday i brought home a pair of fisher viron 110 boots shell 26.5/liner 26 to wear around the living room (i can return them)...of course my feet go to sleep...i think they are a high volume boot with a wider than average toe box but i get hotspots on my arch and on pinky and big toe...the toe box can prob be stretched some but how much can the arch be tweaked? i know u can cut/scrape the tongue some but that seems limited??

 

the AT shop says they can fit with the oven moldable liner (dynafit, garmont, black diamond) and that would sort any prob....the alpine shops say 'just ski them 10 days and all will be good'...if not bring them in and we can tweak them...

 

just looking for some advice on which direction to go....is this a normal experience? it just hard to shell out 500$++ on some boots that hurt...i understand they need tweaking but that is a 500$+++ leap of faith.

 

the season is half way thru and i am frustrated

any help appreciated

Thanks

B

post #2 of 6
Thread Starter 

from reading some other posts i thought i would add:

 

i am wearing very thin socks and they are not bunched up

feet go numb even with buckles un-buckled

feet go numb in boots even after removing footbeds

no i have not removed zeppa yet

tested while in skis in living room...rocking back forth, flexing etc

post #3 of 6

find a better shop?

 

really, your feet shouldn't get numb after 10+ minutes in a boot, inside. (without a footbed, thin sock, and toe buckles off)

 

someone is missing something about the fit of your foot. but as we can't see your foot, we can't help with this much.

 

where are you?   we might be able to reccomend someone in your area.

post #4 of 6
Thread Starter 



 

Quote:
Originally Posted by mntlion View Post

find a better shop?

 

really, your feet shouldn't get numb after 10+ minutes in a boot, inside. (without a footbed, thin sock, and toe buckles off)

 

someone is missing something about the fit of your foot. but as we can't see your foot, we can't help with this much.

 

where are you?   we might be able to reccomend someone in your area.


 

Thanks for the reply Dave!

 

I have tried 3 local alpine ski shops in Bozeman MT and they all are trying to get me into as small a shell as possible which makes sense but I am guessing my high instep/arch is the main problem. I assume that the top of my foot on the arch must be getting pressure (i have noted a hotspot) and so the blood gets cut off from there. All the shops guarantee their boot fit and will work the boot as needed but it doesnt seem right that my fore foot goes numb. All the shops say 'just ski them' and if they dont work for ya bring them back and we will fix them or get ya in a new boot. That is great but how can i ski with numb feet? My concern is that from what i read it seems like the boot's arch/instep has a limited amount of adjustability and even with the guarantee from the shops to make it right i just want to make sure i get the proper boot from the start even if it needs alot of work done to it. I understand that they are not gonna fit like a glove right off the bat but this just seems so extreme the other way. I guess my concern stems from my current sloppy boots which are way too large and were sold to me by one of these shops back in 2003 when shell fitting was not as popular. Now it hard to trust any of them.

 

If this numbness is normal and can be easily worked out then I will go back and find something that works.  Any boots that have the most room in the arch/instep to focus on?

 

Also I am going to stop back in at the AT shop and consider a dual purpose AT boot since they had me in a slightly larger shell and from what i understand the liners are more moldable vs the standard alpine liners.

 

Thanks again for the reply any more advice appreciated.

B

post #5 of 6

shop around, but try the boots without any footbed and a really thin sock, toe buckles OPEN (not just loose)

 

also find out what the return policy is at the store.  If they will work on the boots for free, and if the issue is not solved still take the boots back for a full refund, what do you have to loose?

post #6 of 6

reading between the lines a little makes me think as Dave has said there is something else going on..... so

 

how is your ankle joint range of motion (flexion ),??? it is very common for a high arched foot to be pretty rigid...... if this is restricted then every time you flex the heel will lose contact with the bottom of the boot (it may not even feel like it does) but you will load up the ball of the foot and the instep will stack into the roof of the boot, either the loading on the ball of foot or the compression from above (that is being caused by the foot lifting up not the boot pushing down) will send your feet to sleep pretty quickly..... my best guess is that you ended in the big boots you have now because the same thing was happening and they just kept going up a size until you could shunt forward in the boot and stand bolt upright but without numbness.... look at your old boots, take the liner out and remove whatevr footbed is in there...is there a pile of sock fluff on the back 3/4" or so of the footbed??? if so you are sitting too far forward and it may confirm what i am thinking.

 

if this is the case you need a more upright boot, and/or to have the heel lifted in the boot to open up the ankle joint and help to get weight over the whole foot, depending on the extent of the problem the requirments will be different, i have probably refered out 10-12 people this year to a friend who fits DALE boot, the upright nature of the cuff of this boot and the way it is fitted seem to have worked for these people well, but they are at the extreme end of the spectrum of lack of flexibilty

 

of copurse all of the above is just a wild stab in the dark based on the information we have and a gut feelingbiggrin.gif

 

i think sometimes shops are a little too scared to refer out if they don't have something that is right for the client, worried about losing the sale or not giving an instant solution

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ask the Boot Guys
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ask the Boot Guys › new boot fit questions and advice