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Rossi Super S7 vs. S7 vs. Prophet 115?

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Hi all,

 

My local shop has some '10/11 Super S7's for sale for $499.  They also have the Prophet 115's for the same price.  I've heard fantastic things about both skis.  

 

I'm just a little worried about the Super's in 195 length, thinking they won't really be that good in trees and will require more wide open powder bowls to really excel.  Is that the case?  I'm a pretty tall heavy guy, 6'3" and 235 lbs so driving them shouldn't really be an issue, I just worry more about maneuverability.  The fact I'm even asking this question seems kind of silly since I used to ski 195's as my "short" ski back in the day, lol!

 

How about the regular S7's in say a 188 in comparison?

 

Or the Prophet 115's in 186 in comparison?  I haven't heard a single bad thing about the Prophet's and they seem to have similar characteristics to the regular S7's from what I've read in the reviews.  I just worry that I won't be able to demo (won't be out for another 2 weeks) before these deals are are snapped up.

 

Thanks in advance for the input!

 

 

 

 

post #2 of 7
Thread Starter 

Bump.

 

Interested particularly in a comparison b/the S7 and the Prophet 115 if anyone can help shed any light?

post #3 of 7

This is pretty easy as the differences are fundamental.

 

All S7 variants have a relatively short cambered section underfoot with a medium-firm flex in that region. The aggressive tip and tail rise, dramatic pintail, and very notable taper from the contact points fore and aft combine with rather soft flexes in those areas.

 

The P-115 is much more conventional in shape and taper. Modest tip rise, conventional camber in the remainder, no early taper, fairly firm flex throughout.

 

Very different critters.

 

SJ

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Interesting, thanks SJ.  Lots of new snow in Tahoe this week so I'll have to see if I can get a demo on either this weekend. 

 

But it sounds like the P-115 is maybe more of a one-ski quiver for softer conditions and/or hard charging skiing, whereas the S7 is more of a true powder ski with some camber to help get you back to the lift?  

 

Which do you think is ultimately a better soft-snow quiver addition to a ski like the Kendo (which I currently own)?

 

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But it sounds like the P-115 is maybe more of a one-ski quiver for softer conditions and/or hard charging skiing, whereas the S7 is more of a true powder ski with some camber to help get you back to the lift?  

 

Which do you think is ultimately a better soft-snow quiver addition to a ski like the Kendo (which I currently own)?

 


I think you really answered your own question except for the part where you decide what your priorities are all about. Here's what I mean..........

 

Your daily driver is very good on hardpack for its width range but only average in bumpy/mixed conditions. So..........how do you want to use this next ski? Do you want it to come out only on deeper days? or would you want to use it in say "day after" or "day after the day after"conditions?

 

F'rinstance................

 

I owned an S7 for two seasons and also had another 115mm ski at that time that was conventional (Dyn Huge Trouble) I also had various hard snow skis and a revolving quiver of mid-high 90's skis. Here's how they got used then and still get used today and how I'd use a Kendo if I owned one..

 

Big days = Start out with S7. On low traffic days, I might stay on these all day. On a high traffic day (quickly skied out) or a day when the snow was heavy, the HT might come out as soon as 11-12:00.

 

Day after big day = Usually start and stay on the HT

 

Day after that = Maybe the HT but more probably one of those various mid 90's

 

3rd day after = Prefer one of those 90's but might use a Kendo here.

 

After that = Kendo or a good 90's ski wouldn't matter much.

 

So.............................................Priorities

 

If I'd had to pick one ski in that (~~115mm) width range.......it would have been the HT b/c it did more things well than the S7 did. The P-115 falls into the HT category as well.

 

SJ

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Thread Starter 

Thanks SJ that's a great analogy!

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Thread Starter 

Went up to Tahoe this weekend--wow what amazing snow!  Unfortunately my bus from the Bay Area was delayed due to bad snow on Friday night/early Saturday Morning and we didn't get to Northstar until 11am.  All the powder ski's I've been wanting to try were gone at that point, considering the 7+ feet of fresh the area has had in the past week.

 

So I just ski'd my Kendo's all day, in everything, and was totally blown away how well they did.  From the soft powdery bump ridden ungroomed blacks on Lookout Mtn. and in up to 3-4 feet of virgin pow right off the groomed runs, they absolutely blew my mind.  Of course they didn't "float" per se, I was up to my knees in pow at some points, but I could still see my tips porpoising up occasionally "for air."  That's not to say that any 88 to 90 width wouldn't have been just as "good" in those conditions, but I never found myself wanting for something wider the whole day.

 

Disclaimer, I was by myself and there were warning signs everywhere not to ski off-piste without a buddy due to the deep snow, so I didn't venture into the trees or anything.  I saw a guy fall right underneath a lift and completely disappear except for the tips of his poles sticking out, so I didn't dare head into the trees in that by myself.  Even if I had a good pow ski, I would have still wanted a buddy to feel safe skiing tress or off-piste in those conditions....

 

But all in all, the Kendo's just reminded me how much I have to learn and improve and were super rewarding in the soft bumpy snow when I got my speed up with good form.  On the other hand, they didn't really "help" me going slow and/or with bad form--you might even say they start to punish you quickly for that.  So I really can't see myself outgrowing these things anytime soon and I'm pretty glad I didn't buy a full blown powder ski quite yet.  At least not until I can master 7 feet of fresh snow with my "quiver of one." ;-)

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