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Tips diving and catching in deeper powder

post #1 of 13
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  So about a month ago I upgraded my skis from little 64's to 90's that are 160cm long. I love them but it seems like when I am skiing 15 inches or deeper of powder, I noticed one of the skis sometimes like gets caught up and catches in the snow and I go over. This usually happens at slower-moderate speeds. Like I have to lean VERY far back just so my skis can float and not dive in and I crash. When I am in a turning rythm, it doesn't seem to happen nearly as often but in flatter terrain and run-outs, it happens often. 




My skis are slightely rockered and I ski in Utah if that helps


(they are Rossignol S7.pro's wich are the mini S7's. They have a 90mm waiste)

post #2 of 13

I try to go moderate to fast speeds in a turning rhythm and avoid flat slopes with deep snow as much as possible. 


I ski a non-rockered 96 mm 186 cm ski (Fischer Misfit/Atua) quite often in powder and while I don't have a tip dive issue, I prefer to avoid flat slopes with deep snow as I find my powder skiing feels much better when I have at least moderate speed.  I have never skied a rocker, but would think that it would help in this regard, but obviously not enough for you at slow speeds.


I am not sure how big or heavy you are (I am about 190 lbs) but a longer, wider ski should help to lower the speed limit at which point the ski starts to plane out and perform like you want it to assuming that you have the size, strength & technique to handle more ski.

post #3 of 13

Suggestion? Maybe check your ramp and or delta angles.

post #4 of 13

Well, the 160 is a kid ski for one. So, if you're an actual real person living at Alta, stop by Deep Powder House and see what the boys 'n' girls there recommend. S7's should not tip dive in the proper size, etc.

post #5 of 13

on flat run out leaning back is perfectly acceptable while going straight...




post #6 of 13
Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

on flat run out leaning back is perfectly acceptable while going straight...







post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 

Ok, well...


  I just got these skis so new skis are out of the question. I'll figure it out....

post #8 of 13

If one ski is sinking, put more of your weight on the other ski.  Is it always the same (left or right side) ski?

post #9 of 13

How are you weighting your skis? In 15" of powder or more, you are probably going to want to be pretty much equally weighted (50/50 - 60/40). Also, trying to make turns at slow speeds in powder will be difficult with all the resistance of the snow.


Have you read these threads?




post #10 of 13



A 160 is a little short for powder skiing if you are an adult.  More of a 50/50 weight ski to ski will keep one ski from diving.  I also ski powder with a very neutral fore/aft stance so I can apply tip or tail pressure by opening or closing the ankle joint.  I suggest taking a powder skiing lesson, people have been skiing powder long before the 90cm and +  and rocker skis were popular.  Any upper body rotation can also cause one ski to catch and over you go.



post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 

I think upper body rotation is definatly one of my probs. I am not an adult, sorry I forgot to mention, I am 115 lbs 5'4.


It seems like my left ski tends to do it more often. I can ski powder fine when I am like going down steeper stuff and in a turning rythm, this problem never happens. Just like when I am going slower and cruising and my skis sink in, its one of those embarresing falls. I'll also try to more evenly weight my skis

post #12 of 13

I found a mantra to repeat when I hit the powder off of the groomed:

"loosy goosy skis together" "loosy goosy skis together" over and over.

sit back if they shovel in

speeding up helps, but I'm a chicken--sometimes I only get up to speed after some runs.

also, even if you don't need to plant poles and turn, pretend to, pow pow pow. It helps give you the feeling

of turning in powder. Just keep turning or pretending to and it will wire you right in.


Am I an expert? not really.

post #13 of 13

Either weight them evenly or don't.  In other words, it's the in between that will get you.  If you feel like you are "in between" (and you'll know it because it is just before you face-plant) start to pedal.  It is ok to flex and extend your legs and pressure one ski more than the other in pow, as long as that is what you intend.  When you pressure and extend the ski it will sink.  If you pressure the middle of the foot then the tail should sink a little more than the tip (don't pressure the with the toes or forefoot too much) The other ski will become light and is ready for the next pedal, or as a safety if anything goes wrong.  This should get you a bit more stacked over your skis and reduce some of that rotation as well. 

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