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bindings with adjustable fore and aft position

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I am a back seat rider- been reading about the campbell balancer, and want to try moving my bindings forward.

 

dont want to redrill every time - so wondering if there is a binding out there that can be adjusted forward and back by a couple inches?

 

Len

post #2 of 8

Marker Griffon Schizo and Jester Schizo both have 6cm of travel.  I have the Griffon Schizo on my Icelantic Shamans and like it quite a bit.

 

Bear in mind that no binding will get you out of the backseat, that's something you just have to work on.  I had the same problem and have mostly, probably 90-95%, overcome it but it has taken me about 3 years.

post #3 of 8

Head/Tyrolia Railflex quickly adjusts +/- 15cm.

 

Any rental/demo binding with independently adjustable toe and heel components.  I'm a big fan of the humble but rugged and reliable Tyrolia Sympro series.  Experimenting with fore/aft position on your skis can be very rewarding.

 

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Experimenting with fore/aft position on your skis can be very rewarding.

 


How can you tell whether you need to? I.e., is there a way of determining whether it's just a technique issue, or whether it's in fact some anatomical quirk which makes you need to adjust the binding position to be correctly centred?

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Originally Posted by stvbck View Post


Experimenting with fore/aft position on your skis can be very rewarding.

 


How can you tell whether you need to? I.e., is there a way of determining whether it's just a technique issue, or whether it's in fact some anatomical quirk which makes you need to adjust the binding position to be correctly centred?



This is snow and ski dependent. In powder you will want to slide your bindings back a few centimeters, but if you want faster edge to edge then you want to be on or slightly forward of factory mark. This is also ski dependent; do some research on your skis and find out how it skis based on mounting point. For instance, my mantras ski better 1.5cm back so that is where by default I keep them for max all mountain performance. When I want to drop some 3's or carve a little more, I slide them forward a centimeter or two. When I want to do some pillows and powder glades, I slide them back a centimeter. 

I run the Marker Jester Schizo and I am very pleased with its performance thus far, so it has my vote as a very handy tool for your skis.

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Moving your bindings forward will not change being "a back seat rider," but in may improve the performance of your skis.  As pointed out, you appear to have a technique and not an equipment issue.  If you want to try something fairly easy and cheap that may be helpful, see if you can adjust the forward lean on your boots.  Many boots come with a preset upright stance that can put you in the back seat when you bend your knees.  Adjusting them to give you a more forward flexed position could help keep your weight on the front of the skis where it belongs.

 

My Dalebellos came with an upright position and two wedges that could be inserted to increase the forward lean.  I need the big wedge, while my wife uses the smaller one, and some people like them with no wedge.  If I had just skied them out of the box I would have no wedge and be in the back seat myself.  You need to have a boot that functions with your body type and skiing style, and experimenting with forward lean is usually an easy thing to do.  Almost all top line boots have forward lean adjustments.  Cheaper model boots may have a fixed forward lean, but if you talk to a good boot fitter they can usually modify them for you.

 

Something as simple as loosening the top buckle a little will allow you to stay forward more easily.  FWIW, I have several pairs of skis with adjustable bindings and have found that I prefer them all back from the factory line, as opposed to forward.

post #7 of 8

In depth discussion of fore / aft binding position:  http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/30060/technical-effects-of-binding-placement-fore-and-aft

 

Many variables are in play as to achieving a balanced stance: boot stiffness, boot fit, flex pattern, forward lean, cuff alignment, canting, and ramp angle to name some, all of which must match the physiology of the individual skier.

 

How do you know?  On snow evaluation by an expert, or lots of trial and error.  Racers on the WC are "dialed in" by such experts, and typically have different variables in their boots for different disciplines.  

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Dynastar skis with Fluid Bindings are easy to adjust to different bsl lengths or forward and back. I have them on my Sultan 85's and Mythic Riders. Great for traveling, as I slip the bindings off the track and easily get 3 pairs of skis in my 2 ski bag.
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