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Volkl Mantra, Dynastar Legend Pro Riders, Line Prophet 100, Salomon Shogun, Nordica Enforcer

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I'm trying to pick a new pair of skis. Those are some of the ones that I have picked out and now have to narrow it down. Does anyone have any opinions on which one is the best. I ski at Caslte mountain so lots of steep shoots and open glades but also coach Nancy Greene there so I want something I can Rip with the older kids and still turn nicely on the groom with the younger ones. I have been skiing the 184 Mantra for the last three years and loved that, so not sure if I should get the same or try something new. Also anything Atomic I can get Demos for a good price so if people like those maybe that is another option.

 

Cheers!!

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If it is not broken, why fix it?  What is that you dont like about your Mantras?  I can tell yuo what I think about the technical differences between those skies, but that will hardly tell yuo much.  ProRiders are a damper ski with less sidecut, more of a high-speed charger, Prophet is softer, Shogun is lighter and has a rocker, and the Enforcer is supposed to be turnier (have not skied it).    What is important to you?   Maybe the best way is to find a demo place that would let you switch skis during the day...  

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There is really nothing I do not like about the Mantra's but mine are not broken and I need a new ski, no harm in trying something new. Those differences tell me a lot really. Yes I am planning on  doing some demo's this weekend but since I will be teaching I don't have a tone of opertunity to change between lots and the shop only has a few on demo so I wont get to try them all. Just thought I would get some opinions on what people thought to help me make a decision. Thanks for your input.

 

What is important to me. I want a ski I can strap on and love skiing anywhere. I want something stiff and solid for ripping and I also want to be able to go down tree and bumps with the kids.

Cheers!!

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Next year's Mantra has rocker...

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I recently bought the Dynastar Legend Pro XXL in a 187 cm, if that is the one you mean (you can get it under $400 online) and have only skied on frozen crud and groomers (no snow for four weeks and counting).  Now that I've learned to keep on top of it I love it for fast groomers -- but I do need to hit 20 mph before thinking about turning.  It is very stable at speed (eg 5 turns a thousand vertical feet), though it does flex nicely for high speed short linked turns, but it is a serious ski that requires my attention.  Ironically I haven't tried it on deep snow, just a bit of slush, which was fun.  I hate it on the frozen rutted crud we have wherever the sun melts and freezes solid -- all southern exposure off piste -- I think the width and stiffness transfers the shock back to me.

 

The Volkl Kendo (supposedly the updated Mantra), on the other hand, feels like a play thing in comparison -- in a good way, and more versatile for me, though without that invincible feeling.  But I only demo'd for a day.

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The XXL and the LP Rider are completely different skis in performance and dimensions, though some of the construction is similar.

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Oh right, thanks for the correction -- apparently I missed the 'Riders,' getting too involved with my skis.

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I lived in Lethbridge for a couple of years, so I skied Castle quite a bit. Great hill when the wind isn't blowing.

 

I replaced my old Explosivs (not quite the mantra-but somewhat similar) with Shoguns. The Shoguns are easier to ski and quicker edge to edge. They are also better in powder and it is easier to land small drops on them. Neither ski is great in the bumps, but I preferred the Explosiv. The Volkl was also a better crud buster (the early rise of the Shogun helps, but I prefer the tank like feeling of a stiff, straight ski) and had better edge hold.

 

Overall I find the Explosiv is a more serious ski. The Shogun is more playful and forgiving and generally more "fun". I haven't been able to push the Shogun to its limits, but the Harrison/Nobis types might want something stiffer.

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