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Originally Posted by tylrwnzl View Post




Not to fan the flames on this troll fest, but what if he was hiking/skinning up and not turning around and skiing back down, what if he was skinning up and skiing on USFS land out of bounds of JHMR land?



It all doesn't really matter anyways..he's trespassing.  a lift ticket isn't literally just a ticket for the lifts.  A lift ticket is admission for the ski slopes at the resort.  If you want to be on it, you need to pay admission.  If you take your kid to Disneyworld...even if you don't ride any rides, you still have to pay for admission.

post #332 of 359
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It all doesn't really matter anyways..he's trespassing.  a lift ticket isn't literally just a ticket for the lifts.  A lift ticket is admission for the ski slopes at the resort.  If you want to be on it, you need to pay admission.  If you take your kid to Disneyworld...even if you don't ride any rides, you still have to pay for admission.


Does the ticket explicitly state that? I have a feeling this is exactly what he was doing; he knew the legality of the situation and he was trying to make a statement. By definition a lift ticket is a pass to ride the lifts, not to be at the resort otherwise everyone at the lodge would need one too; i mean by sitting in the lodge and enjoying the views aren't those people also doing the same thing?

 

(I am playing devil.gif advocate here I think he should Dr. Fleck was in the wrong and you should buy a lift ticket regardless of riding the lifts or skimming)

post #333 of 359
"Resort won’t pursue charges against Fleck ""

 

http://www.jhnewsandguide.com/article.php?art_id=7007

 

Still, Dan Fleck said his father should have the right to ski uphill at the resort.

“We firmly believe that Dr. Fleck didn’t do anything wrong, and that he was within his rights to access the forest,” he said.

The resort operates under the auspices of a special use permit from the Bridger-Teton National Forest, where the ski hill is located.

“On a relative scale, uphill skiing doesn’t seem dangerous compared to a lot of activities that are going on at resorts all over the country like paragliding, terrain parks and backcounty access through the gates,” Dan Fleck said. “It seems no different to me than people stopping on the slopes.

“I would hope that the resort would review their policy and try to come up with a way to have uphill skiing,” he said.

 

 

post #334 of 359
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Originally Posted by tylrwnzl View Post




Does the ticket explicitly state that? I have a feeling this is exactly what he was doing; he knew the legality of the situation and he was trying to make a statement. By definition a lift ticket is a pass to ride the lifts, not to be at the resort otherwise everyone at the lodge would need one too; i mean by sitting in the lodge and enjoying the views aren't those people also doing the same thing?

 

(I am playing devil.gif advocate here I think he should Dr. Fleck was in the wrong and you should buy a lift ticket regardless of riding the lifts or skimming)


Not sure if it states explicitly, though I would always interpret it as such.  One way to think about it is the purchase of a ski ticket also means you assume the risks of participating in snow sports.  You are essentially signing a form saying you are aware of the risks by buying the ticket.  JH does not allow you to participate in winter activities on their premises until you have agreed to assume this risk...therefore it can be argued that you must have a lift ticket to participate in any winter sports activities at JH.

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Wow..few days without checking at this thread has exploded....anyways What the heck are you really trying to get at?  seriously you've gotten completely off topic and ignored all my original points.  And NO I do not wish to take the time to "explain" it to you because a 5 year old can understand what I wrote.  Go re-read what I wrote and answer some of those questions I posted...then take a moment to activate those little neurons in your head and make a connection to the case at hand...there you go...you just discovered USING YOUR BRAIN!!!

 

Yes I am being condescending...so what....your ignorance deserves it.

 

For a person who seems to have served in the military, you think you'd be more for following rules and regulations no matter how stupid they seem.  When your seargent told you to do 100 push ups cause you didn't fold your bed properly...did you ignore it cause you thought it was dumb?  Are you sure you're a veteran or actually someone that was dishonorably discharged?  Or maybe it's perhaps it's all that pent up frustration for the rules and regulations so you feel you should challenge it now when the chance arises.

 

Here's an analogy maybe you will understand.  Following the NO SKINNING rule at JHMR enforced by the ski patrollers is NO DIFFERENT from following the orders from your immediate commanding officer in the military.

 

Anyways I skimmed through all your other arguments and all I got out of it was BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH..........  I actually do feel a little sorry for you and how you view the world.


 

TRANSLATION:

 

I am right, you are wrong, no discussion, and to prove my point, I feel sorry for you.

 

You're impressive, you know that? I'd like to hire you as a Life Skills Coach.

post #336 of 359
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Haven't insulted a single person here today.  But, in the spirit of fair play, I'd invite you to repost every one of these alleged "insults" in a quote.  Please quote the ones where I insult a specific person, targeted with insulting language.  If no person is targeted in your quote, I'll let you try to argue on who exactly I've insulted by not calling them out specifically.

 

Maybe the rules changed now this it is tomorrow, but I didn't feel like going back through and digging up all your insults, but since the most recent post is one it made this quite easy:


 

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Wow..few days without checking at this thread has exploded....anyways What the heck are you really trying to get at?  seriously you've gotten completely off topic and ignored all my original points.  And NO I do not wish to take the time to "explain" it to you because a 5 year old can understand what I wrote.  Go re-read what I wrote and answer some of those questions I posted...then take a moment to activate those little neurons in your head and make a connection to the case at hand...there you go...you just discovered USING YOUR BRAIN!!!

 

Yes I am being condescending...so what....your ignorance deserves it.

 

For a person who seems to have served in the military, you think you'd be more for following rules and regulations no matter how stupid they seem.  When your seargent told you to do 100 push ups cause you didn't fold your bed properly...did you ignore it cause you thought it was dumb?  Are you sure you're a veteran or actually someone that was dishonorably discharged?  Or maybe it's perhaps it's all that pent up frustration for the rules and regulations so you feel you should challenge it now when the chance arises.

 

Here's an analogy maybe you will understand.  Following the NO SKINNING rule at JHMR enforced by the ski patrollers is NO DIFFERENT from following the orders from your immediate commanding officer in the military.

 

Anyways I skimmed through all your other arguments and all I got out of it was BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH..........  I actually do feel a little sorry for you and how you view the world.

 


 

TRANSLATION:

 

I am right, you are wrong, no discussion, and to prove my point, I feel sorry for you.

 

You're impressive, you know that? I'd like to hire you as a Life Skills Coach.


And if you try to say that you are not being sarcastic and insulting and then I call BSmeter.gif

post #337 of 359

I'm glad I'm no longer the biggest jerk here.

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I'm glad I'm no longer the biggest jerk here.



I've given up as as an "also ran" myself. But don't worry. You'll always be a big jerk to me.

post #339 of 359

Feel the love, baby...

post #340 of 359

Bromance?eek.gif Can we get a poll?

post #341 of 359



 

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I'm glad I'm no longer the biggest jerk here.



 You aren't trying hard enough!

post #342 of 359
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Bromance?eek.gif Can we get a poll?



thought the correct spelling was "pole"

post #343 of 359
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thought the correct spelling was "pole"



Coffee, meet keyboard...

post #344 of 359
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thought the correct spelling was "pole"

roflmao.gif
 

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Coffee, meet keyboard...



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post #346 of 359
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TRANSLATION:

 

I am right, you are wrong, no discussion


yahoo.gifYou finally understand!!  It feels like getting a 1st grader to finally acknowledge that 2+2 = 4, not 3.

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Maybe the rules changed now this it is tomorrow, but I didn't feel like going back through and digging up all your insults, but since the most recent post is one it made this quite easy:


 


And if you try to say that you are not being sarcastic and insulting and then I call BSmeter.gif


How do you prove insult?

 

Not by merely listing it.  Not by merely alleging it.

 

You've failed (failed to prove insult), and your meter is irrelevant, so I won't speak to its poor calibration.

 

I really would like to hire Major Potato Head as a life skills coach.  I've got some bothersome insects in my back yard and his drill sergeant, I'm Right You're Wrong approach to things is perfect for pest control.  I'm sure he could whip those insects into High Achiever Status in short order.  Then he could just tell them, "invading houses is WRONG!," and they would stop.  They'd no longer question right vs wrong because Major Potato Head, Life Skills Coach, had given them the low-down on life.  It's a regular American Success Story.  Walter Mitty is envious from his grave.  Envious of ants.  And it's all because of the approach: he orders, you listen and obey.  Every insect colony needs a commander, and Majortato is here to be that boss.  Go git 'em, Major!

post #348 of 359
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How do you prove insult?

 

Not by merely listing it.  Not by merely alleging it.

 

You've failed (failed to prove insult), and your meter is irrelevant, so I won't speak to its poor calibration.

 

I really would like to hire Major Potato Head as a life skills coach.  I've got some bothersome insects in my back yard and his drill sergeant, I'm Right You're Wrong approach to things is perfect for pest control.  I'm sure he could whip those insects into High Achiever Status in short order.  Then he could just tell them, "invading houses is WRONG!," and they would stop.  They'd no longer question right vs wrong because Major Potato Head, Life Skills Coach, had given them the low-down on life.  It's a regular American Success Story.  Walter Mitty is envious from his grave.  Envious of ants.  And it's all because of the approach: he orders, you listen and obey.  Every insect colony needs a commander, and Majortato is here to be that boss.  Go git 'em, Major!

 

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.  Do you ever stay on topic or do you always avoid what is being discussed by going off on some tangent?  Seriously, every time someone poses a question or a statement, instead of addressing it, you ignore it completely, change the subject, and babble on and on about who knows what.  I think in this entire thread, there's been like 50 questions posed for you to answer and you've avoided every single one of them.

 

Invading houses is wrong..and it's too bad ants won't understand it if I told them.  I would hope a human would, but it sounds like you think that "invading houses is wrong" is up for debate?  That would explain quite a bit about your attitude on this whole situation..I'm glad you don't know where I live.  You're welcome to join the ranks of the insects and do whatever you feel like doing...just please try not to disturb us humans.  roflmao.gif

 

and btw...how do you prove insult?  LOL seriously that's your best defense?  That's like Bill Clinton trying to argue what the definition of "is" is.  The more you talk, the more you sound ridiculous.  A kindergartener could figure out what is an insult and what isn't...but I suppose insects aren't quite as bright as kids.  

 

So how do you prove that he failed to prove insult?  how do you prove his meter is irrelevant?  Just because you say so?  Are you becoming a drill sergeant now too?  You must be right and he must be wrong. HAHAHA  See how easily I can use your same silly arguments against you?  Com'on...lets use those neurons in your head for once, they need a good work out.

I'd bet money that you won't answer a single question I posted in this post and bring up some other random point....I'm kinda excited to see where this rabbit hole in your head leads. popcorn.gif
 

btw, I bolded all the questions in this post to help you find it easier in case you have trouble figuring out what is a question and what isn't.  They're the sentences with "?" behind them.

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post #350 of 359

Time to find out if the Block Member function really works.

post #351 of 359
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thought the correct spelling was "pole"


 

Yeah well go train some insects to stay out of my house, smartypants, and stuff like that. Calibrate your BS meter and be my life coach. You've failed to prove anything. Boohoo, haha, take that!

post #352 of 359
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Yeah well go train some insects to stay out of my house, smartypants, and stuff like that. Calibrate your BS meter and be my life coach. You've failed to prove anything. Boohoo, haha, take that!

I have just the remedy for all the jk.gifhopmad.gifBeating_A_Dead_Horse_by_livius.gifwords.gifhijack2.gifRules.gifhissyfit.giffrown.gifhopmad.gifsnowfight.gifBSmeter.gifirony.gif

 

Here is my proposal.  First we go skiingski.gif

 

And then..

 


 

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Now I know you are either certifiably insane and should be escorted back to the padded cell without computer privileges or you are definitely a troll. 

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How do you prove insult?

 

Not by merely listing it.  Not by merely alleging it.

 

You've failed (failed to prove insult), and your meter is irrelevant, so I won't speak to its poor calibration.

 

I really would like to hire Major Potato Head as a life skills coach.  I've got some bothersome insects in my back yard and his drill sergeant, I'm Right You're Wrong approach to things is perfect for pest control.  I'm sure he could whip those insects into High Achiever Status in short order.  Then he could just tell them, "invading houses is WRONG!," and they would stop.  They'd no longer question right vs wrong because Major Potato Head, Life Skills Coach, had given them the low-down on life.  It's a regular American Success Story.  Walter Mitty is envious from his grave.  Envious of ants.  And it's all because of the approach: he orders, you listen and obey.  Every insect colony needs a commander, and Majortato is here to be that boss.  Go git 'em, Major!

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BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.  Do you ever stay on topic or do you always avoid what is being discussed by going off on some tangent? 

 

That was a rhetorical question, wasn't it?  

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Trotski/Orwell, is that you?

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Time to find out if the Block Member function really works.



It does.  One click and the posts by an obnoxious jerk are gone.  

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It does.  One click and the posts by an obnoxious jerk are gone.  


Damn, then I must have done something wrong. Can someone throw me a bone and post a how to?

 

Sorry OP to thread jack but I was really enjoying this thread until lately. 

post #358 of 359
  • hover over the offender's name in a post
  • move the mouse down to Block Member
  • click

 

You have to hover over the name of the member, not the down triangle next to the name. The down triangle shows the menu, but it is lost as soon as you move the mouse towards the menu.

 

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post #359 of 359

Are we done here?

 

This seems far enough off-topic after 12 pages.

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