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Boot Toe Width and Bindings

post #1 of 5
Thread Starter 

I'm new here so this might be a stupid question, but you have to learn somewhere and search didn't turn up anything.  

 

I noticed that the boot width on kids boots are different toe widths (and of course different lengths).   Are bindings built to accommodate the different boot toe widths?    Is this something the ski tech adjusts when he sizes the bindings?   The bindings I'm thinking about are Neox 310.

post #2 of 5

There are two separate DIN Norms for the boot/binding interface known a A = Adult and C = Child.

 

Some bindings can accommodate both, most accommodate only one or the other. Some may be modified by a tech to allow C-Norm boots in an otherwise A-Norm binding. And some A-Norm bindings actually hold some C-Norm boots very well, but that's not not official and you didn't hear it from me.

 

Your specific question is about Neox 310 and C-Norm boots - and I'm afraid I just don't know. Atomic may make a kit to convert the Neox to C-Norm, or Neox's might happen to hold C-Norm boots quite well - but someone with 1st hand knowledge would have to confirm or deny.

post #3 of 5
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If anyone knows if the 310 bindings work with those C-Norm boots I'd appreciate it.  Or better stated my little girl would appreciate it.   Sounds like they will not work.    

 

Was looking at my kids current skis and they both have Marker 4.5 bindings but one has A-Norm and the other is C-Norm (if I have the terminology right).   Guess that binding is an example of one that works with both.

post #4 of 5

Without exact knowledge about the binding, I can say, however, that it's extremely doubtful that a binding with a DIN range between 3 and 10 will be available in a dimension designed to fit a child's boot (C).  A 3-10 DIN range is suitable for older children and adults, not young children. 

 

The Markers you describe range from DIN 0.75 to 7.5, and that's an appropriate range, compared to the Atomics, to offer in two different toe widths for both young (C) and older (A) children. 

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Originally Posted by exracer View Post

Without exact knowledge about the binding, I can say, however, that it's extremely doubtful that a binding with a DIN range between 3 and 10 will be available in a dimension designed to fit a child's boot (C).  A 3-10 DIN range is suitable for older children and adults, not young children. 

 

The Markers you describe range from DIN 0.75 to 7.5, and that's an appropriate range, compared to the Atomics, to offer in two different toe widths for both young (C) and older (A) children. 


Think about young racers....

 

Marker Comp 10s are often used with kids boots, using a conversion kit. Apparently the result is still a bit too sloppy for some peoples' likings.

Look/Dynastar/Rossi NX/Nova/Axium style bindings, including DIN 10 bindings like the Rossi Axium Jr Race. can be converted with a kit, and these are not sloppy at all.

Tyrolia style bindings like the Fischer Z11/FR11 etc. just work with many kids boots, or with a thin shim on the boot lugs.

 

Neox 310s were used as race bindings on Atomic Jr race skis, so its not that unlikely that they can be converted/used with C-Norm, but I just don't have the info available to say yea or nay.

 

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