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Super G skis or GS skis?

post #1 of 9
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Need some advice. My J3 daughter is Hgt 5'8, 130 lbs. She has 2 SuperG races/yr. The only training she gets on these skis is that one day prior to the race. Should she use SuperG skis or GS skis? If SuperG skis, is 195 ok or should she go longer?

thanks

post #2 of 9

She should try some Super G's. A 195cm would be good. Just so happens I took a pair of 209cm with a world cup plate out last Wednesday and had a ball. 

 

Is she winning races or finishing in the Top 15 in GS? If not I will assume she really does not need to follow the USSA rules.

 

If she could find a 30M radius,  little bit older 195 (Atomic makes an excellent version that was for J3's) it is a narrower ski underfoot. It  skis more like a Long GS ski but without the stiffness of a FIS legal 27M GS ski. I skied on a pair of our 204cm Atomic 30M Super G's also Wednesday and they were extrememly easy skiing! Really easy to lay over.

 

Be sure they have a 1 degree base bevel and a sharp 3 degree side edge!

post #3 of 9

If shes placing top 30% or so go with a Super G ski, if not go with something like a 187 Volkl Racetiger which has a 27M radius.  A 187 RC4 would be good too, but I think it costs more.

post #4 of 9

Both way too stiff!!! I mean c'mon those are Men's FIS skis! Hardly appropriate for 130lbs. J3 woman.

 

In fact I demeod the RC4 pro back to back with an i.speed and Atomic Gs Race D2. All non-fis masters tupe GS ski woith about an 18M radius.

 

The Head was ridiuclosuly stiff and the Fischer (a 175 no less was even stiffer)

 

I bought the D2. 179cm 18.4 radius. Much more forgigng longitudianl flex and has equal , no bwetter edge hold then the other 2 skis. I could bend the heck out of the tip and then the top control deck kicked in and stiffened the ski progressively.

 

Speed skis have a most more forgivng flex particularly in the tip. Much easier to start the ski bending.

 

All other things being considered, she has to be able to bend ze ski!

post #5 of 9

Actually, Volkl SGjr skis and the mens GS skis are extremely similar in flex, shape, and length. I remember a couple of years ago they made 188cm SGjr skis with a 27m radius and 187 GS skis with a 27m radius. Both very very similar flex. Going with a GS ski wouldn't be a bad option, especially if length can be an issue for her.
 

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Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post

Both way too stiff!!! I mean c'mon those are Men's FIS skis! Hardly appropriate for 130lbs. J3 woman.

 

In fact I demeod the RC4 pro back to back with an i.speed and Atomic Gs Race D2. All non-fis masters tupe GS ski woith about an 18M radius.

 

The Head was ridiuclosuly stiff and the Fischer (a 175 no less was even stiffer)

 

I bought the D2. 179cm 18.4 radius. Much more forgigng longitudianl flex and has equal , no bwetter edge hold then the other 2 skis. I could bend the heck out of the tip and then the top control deck kicked in and stiffened the ski progressively.

 

Speed skis have a most more forgivng flex particularly in the tip. Much easier to start the ski bending.

 

All other things being considered, she has to be able to bend ze ski!

post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 

 Thanks to all of you for some really great advice. Her coach is lending her Vist 195's so we shall see how it goes in a few days. She tried them the other day for some runs. I understand the need for flexibility. For this particular race we will go with Vist, since time is running out. Don't know how stiff they are. But I will definitely use your advice for our actual Super G purchase.

post #7 of 9

VIST skis tend to run soft. I think you made a good choice.

post #8 of 9

Atomic D2 is a very odd ski, I don't like to compare it to a normal ski because it's like apples and genetically modified oranges.  It's a fun rec ski, but it's not anywhere close to as stiff as I want for a race ski.  RC4's are my favorites still ski.gif but VIST is a solid choice for her first SG ski

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Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post

Both way too stiff!!! I mean c'mon those are Men's FIS skis! Hardly appropriate for 130lbs. J3 woman.

 

In fact I demeod the RC4 pro back to back with an i.speed and Atomic Gs Race D2. All non-fis masters tupe GS ski woith about an 18M radius.

 

The Head was ridiuclosuly stiff and the Fischer (a 175 no less was even stiffer)

 

I bought the D2. 179cm 18.4 radius. Much more forgigng longitudianl flex and has equal , no bwetter edge hold then the other 2 skis. I could bend the heck out of the tip and then the top control deck kicked in and stiffened the ski progressively.

 

Speed skis have a most more forgivng flex particularly in the tip. Much easier to start the ski bending.

 

All other things being considered, she has to be able to bend ze ski!

 

I'm with A'man on this.  The current crop of 27m GS skis are pretty hefty and would present quite a challenge for a 130# skier.  Would work against a lot of the finesse necessary to ski SG well.  A longer GS ski can be  a good option though but look for the older >21m versions which are much more manageable (see also Muleski's input on this at

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/96015/wtb-175cm-sg-skis-with-bindings-for-jr-female-skier-13-year-old-a-decent-pair-of-gs-may-work-as-well#post_1301729 )

 

If you decide you are looking for a dedicated SG, PM  me.  I have a virtually new Atomic 195 SG available

 

 

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