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I'm resuscitating and changing a thread from recent past.  I'm 175, 5'8", level strong 7 maybe 8 and just bought a pair of 4x4's in 172.  Love them...and question them.  I may not be a good enough skier for them; after 5 days I'm still not sure.  I love their performance on groomed and cut-up; they carve and blow through crud like a tank.  I got no problems on the groomed and hardpack we usually ski here in MA and Vermont.  But the thought of them in the bumps gives me the willies.  I'm not much of a bump skier, but I also don't really see them doing that well in fresh.  They just feel heavy and damp and tank-like. 

 

Anyone got suggestions for a good 2nd ski?  For fresh, glades, bumps in the east.  I want nimble, light (on the feet; I like the glued to the snow feel of the Contacts), manueverable, softer, wider.  I don't want a dedicated powder ski, but one that would overlap the 4x4's groomer performance slightly so I could choose only one ski for the day.

Suggestions? 

post #2 of 5

first bump skiing is one place where you cant really buy a turn, but the 4x4 are kinda of sucky bump ski.

 

Look at stiffer all mountain type twins for what you want very few still have conventional camber, BTW the stiffest twins will still be quite soft compared to your 4x4s.

post #3 of 5

i ski in vt. as well and i also own the 4x4's. they are definitely a great cheater GS ski that you can't get back seat on. if i lose any focus with them i get behind them quickly.   ive skied them in the bumps they are a tough ride. i also ski prophet 90's which are ok in the bumps, however they are substantially better than the 4x4's. so you won't have any overlap with the prophets and they are great in trees and fresh. if possible try to find a leftover older pair ( green topsheet)

look into the contact ltd, sultans,or if you can find a leftover pair of legend 8000's.

good luck.

post #4 of 5

ps. i noticed that u have rx8's, they are a lot of fun in the bumps....... quick, short turns, much different than the 4x4's. i think you need a twin as well.

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I want nimble, light (on the feet; I like the glued to the snow feel of the Contacts), manueverable, softer, wider.

 

These things more or less contradict one another so I'll assume that you really want the nimble, soft & light part and really don't care about the glued to the snow (stiffer, heavier) part.

 

The ski you are seeking can be a twin but doesn't have to be. A normal ski with a kicktail can make a fine bumper. The Line P-90 is a fine AM ski for a twin but may be a bit stiffer than you want. Two that immediately come to mind are the Atomic Snoop and the Nordica HR Burner. The Snoop is 94mm, twin, light, medium soft and has a high fun factor. The HR is 85mm also light, kicktail, and is little stiffer & grippier but of course not quite as floaty. Both are better than what you have in bumps and softer snow. Both the Snoop and the Nordie can be had at affordable prices.

 

SJ

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