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Volkl Mantra and Alternatives; Advice Please :)

post #1 of 17
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Hey there,

This is my first thread/post here although for a long time I have read and taken inspiration and advice from these forums. 

 

Anyways, I'm looking to purchase another pair of skis; I finally ditched my old V-Explosiv's I inherited and I'm getting a little tired of using my race skis in powder etc.

 

About Me

 

I am 30 some odd years old, 6'3, and 210lbs. I have been skiing for 27 years and I am now a level 3 ski instructor. I was born in Ontario but most of my skiing is done west coast or down south. I get maybe 30 days on the snow a year and I'm shopping for some new skis now. I am an 'expert' level skier, per se; I've yet to encounter a mountain with runs I can't ski but I'm far from flawless. My style is aggressive and I prefer to make low and fast big carving turns. I also enjoy powder glades and powder steeps but not a fan of ice (who is? smile.gif)

 

Past Skis Owned

 

Skis I've owned since 12 or so when I started to buy real skis:

Fischer World Cup 150 SL's

Volkl SL FIS stock
K2 Public Enemy (176 I think?)

Salomon X-Wing Lab 198

Inherited some old V-Explosivs from my Dad I think in the high 180 length

Fischer RC4 SL WC 165

 

Anyways I've always tried to have a set of skis I use for racing and a set for powder/mountain. I really liked the V-Explosiv and I heard the Mantra is a good choice as a modern successor, but I would like some input on alternatives as well.

 

I looked at the Mantra and the two lengths I liked were 177 and 184. Only thing is I am concerned about a 184 in glades/bumps and I'm not sure how much different a feel they have compared to the 177. I am trying to find a demo on the skis now.

Any advice and alternatives will be extremely appreciated!

Thanks guys!
Matt


Edited by iKabrex - 3/3/11 at 4:57am
post #2 of 17

Hi - If you liked the Mantra, a Blizzard Atlas might be a touch easier in tight places; softer tail, 180 cm would be your length, and you can slide in some AT bindings if you're in the mood. OTOH, neither are what I'd choose for glades; both are crud and open snow rippers. Blizzard makes a very nice ski for trees and such, The One, that will be softer and more supple than the Atlas or Mantra, but still capable of carving well. Just a lower speed limit. Same excellent mounting system as the Atlas. Some good prices on these right now; reviewed over on Gear Reviews. One of the reviewers is a Level III at Stowe and teaches on them, far as I know. 

post #3 of 17

Wow you've had a solid quiver with some awesome skis!  Mantra is awesome, so are the Kendo and Bridge if you like the Public Enemy and X-Wings.  I'd check them all out to get a feel, and they should be on sale this time of the season smile.gif

post #4 of 17
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Originally Posted by RaceDude View Post

Wow you've had a solid quiver with some awesome skis!  Mantra is awesome, so are the Kendo and Bridge if you like the Public Enemy and X-Wings.  I'd check them all out to get a feel, and they should be on sale this time of the season smile.gif

 

 

I loved the X Wings and I liked the Enemies and I was told the Mantra handles similarly to the X Wings and the V Explosivs. As far as bindings goes I picked up some Marker Jester bindings that were a 1 day demo set for 25% off which was a nice find.

post #5 of 17

did you ski explosivs much? which model? they are quite different between models. in general, explosiv skiers enjoy the Mantra, or anything like it, fairly stiff, some metal.

post #6 of 17

If you demo  Volkl mantras, also try the Katanas.I here they are a better all around ski.

post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

did you ski explosivs much? which model? they are quite different between models. in general, explosiv skiers enjoy the Mantra, or anything like it, fairly stiff, some metal.


I believe they were '03 Explosiv's. They had a great feel on the bombers and were pretty fun to ski <2ft pow, although they did take some muscle (which I like, its nice to have to work to achieve results if that doesn't sound crazy, like blades for golf)

 

If you demo  Volkl mantras, also try the Katanas.I here they are a better all around ski.

 

Aren't the katanas like 111 at the waist?
 

post #8 of 17

the Explosiv Model is easier to identify by top sheet, wizard or budha or sky graphics? Katana is about 110, quite different than the Mantra, not as versatile, more float however.

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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

the Explosiv Model is easier to identify by top sheet, wizard or budha or sky graphics? Katana is about 110, quite different than the Mantra, not as versatile, more float however.


 

the katana gives up some hard snow grip from better crud/bump performance and is a ton more nimble than the Mantra or the explosive. If this guy skis the east (or any tight glades) at all I would not recommend the Mantra one bit.

 

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FIFY
 

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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

the Explosiv Model is easier to identify by top sheet, wizard or budha or sky graphics? Katana is about 110, quite different than the Mantra, not as versatile, more float however.


 

the katana gives up some hard snow grip from better crud/bump performance and is a ton more nimble than the Mantra or the explosive. If this guy skis the east (or any) tight glades at all I would not recommend the Mantra one bit.

 

I agree.  Softer easier bending and less torsional rigidity is better in tight spaces.
 

post #11 of 17

A wider ski better for East West / hard snow soft snow crossover? a little counter-intuitive and not how skiers here use their quiver, but it could be the case. East and West input for an OP that will ski both should result in a broad analysis. I guess where I differ is that I don't find the Mantra to be difficult in any conditions or terrain, I am so used to a ski of that flex pattern, partly due to skiing Explosivs for about 4 seasons, and so used to tight terrain because of the mountain I ski. If you buy the Mantra long, as in over your head, you will likely find them to be a handful.  I haven't heard the Katana described as soft, around here, where it is used as a crud basher driver quite a bit. A Katana that is sized correctly could be a very agile ski in fresh conditions.

post #12 of 17
Thread Starter 

Great news! I have not been able to find a Mantra in the shops for the last two weeks, but I finally called up one last small shop an hour away and they had one Volkl Mantra in 184!!! They were willing to give the ski PLUS a Griffon binding for 899 which I was super happy about (although I was planning on jesters). I get there today and ask about Jesters (on the phone they said they didn't have any) but they found one in the back and I got a set of Mantra 184's + Marker jesters for $899 (Canadian Currency)!!!!!!!!!

 

I was ecstatic! Got them drilled 1cm from factory line and picking them up tomorrow night. Super stoked to ride them!

Thank you for all your advice and input everyone, it has played a large role in my decision making process.

post #13 of 17

Welcome to the Mantra club.  You'll love them.

post #14 of 17

Glad you went with the 184s. The Mantras ski short for their size. I'm 5'11 175 and ski the 177s, they seem short. You'll love em.

post #15 of 17

Get Mantra's they rock. Deff the 184, i'm a 5'6" female and I ski the 184, i even coach on them somethimes when were not in gates. I would even say the 191 for you they are just fine in the tree's and have nice long solid tails. I love them!!

post #16 of 17
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Picking them up tonight; going to trial them tomorrow evening smile.gif Most excited to take them to Tahoe and Whistler in a few weeks.

post #17 of 17
Thread Starter 

 

 

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Took them out last night for a few runs and I love them so far. They feel similar to my old GS skis but its easier to smear turns a bit and they are quite a bit more nimble than I was told/expected. They're absolutely gorgeous looking in real life too! I mounted them with Marker Jester Schizos so for those pow days I can slide em back but when snow is scare put them forward a little.

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