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Vermont race trails

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

I am making a trip to Vermont in a few weeks and wanted to get familiar with some of the trails used by the New England Masters, FIS, etc. for SL and GS competition. I will be at the following resorts:

Stowe

Killington

Pico

Stratton

Bromley

Suicide Six

Okemo

 

Thanks in advance for any information provided.

post #2 of 13
  • Stowe has several FIS homologated trails and the trail used varies with the level of the race field - check the FIS web site for a list of approved trails
  • Killington has used Highline in the past but will use other trails too - check the FIS web site for their list
  • Pico - see FIS web site
  • Stratton used North American and Standard - these trails are frequently closed for race training
  • Bromley tends to be SL only but check see FIS web site
  • Suicide Six use The Face for SL only
  • Okemo uses Chief for SG & GS and Wardance for SL
post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thanks, the FIS list was helpful and gave me most  of the information I was looking for.

post #4 of 13

Stowe ran the NCAA Championships a few years ago on Hayride, it's the real-deal when injected. MMSC trains every day on Mainstreet these days, it's a great race venue but a little less burly and the aspect is totally different, it gets full sun (when there is any) Hayride doesn't get sun until late Spring.

post #5 of 13

Cool.  Where's the list of trails for the DHs?devil.gif

post #6 of 13
Thread Starter 

The one I haven't been able to locate is the trail at  Bromley. It is not on the FIS website but I know the Masters runs races there each year.

post #7 of 13

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Cool.  Where's the list of trails for the DHs?devil.gif


There are precious few FIS homologated DH trails east of the Rockies.  Okemo has a homologated DH course on Chief (the only one in VT).  Sugarloaf has the DH on Narrow Gauge (used at U.S. Nationals).  Sunday River has T2/Cascades.  Whiteface has the Cloudspin DH course.

 

If you go north of the border, Le Massif has a homologated DH course on Le Charlevoix (the DH course included in Quebec City's Winter Olympics bid).  Mont Ste.-Anne has La Crête 1A.

 

There are plenty of citizens-level, non-FIS DH courses that are used, as well.

post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

Cool.  Where's the list of trails for the DHs?devil.gif



 

A DH trail is almost always less 'impressive' than a top-notch GS venue. The DH courses are usually not a very big deal until the course is set, even then, they may seem tame until you actually ski it at race-pace. 

 

By the way, you missed a citizen SG race here in Stowe last weekend, it was open to the public... it would have been cool to see you kick everyone's ass in a speed event.

post #9 of 13

 

 



 

Bromley has a nice moderate pitch for about 30 seconds then a 10-15 second dead flat to the finish in their main race arena. The trail is called East Meadow. Used only for SL. At times, they use another trail, Pabst Peril, that's up the mountain a little bit, if the main arena is being used for another race.

post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thanks, I have my list for my trip. I appreciate the information from everyone. Just in case anyone else is interested here is the summary. (It includes Hunter in NY where I will be stopping on the way up.)

 

Area

GS

SL

Middlebury Snow Bowl

Allen

Allen (NE Masters);

Ross (FIS)

Hunter

Cliff/Eisenhower

Highlands

Racers Edge/Eisenhower

Killington

Needles Eye

Skylark

Highline

Bittersweet

Highline

Needles Eye

Skylark

Superstar

Okemo

Chief

Ledges

Wardance

Pico

 

B Slope

Smugglers Notch

Black Snake/Snake Bite

Black Snake/Snake Bite

Stowe

Main Street

Hayride

North Slope

Main Street

Hayride

North Slope

Suicide Six

 

The Face

Stratton

North American

Standard

North American

World Cup Slalom

Bromley

 

East Meadow

Pabst Peril

post #11 of 13

FYI, Ledges at Okemo is not used for racing and that homologation will not be renewed when it expires.

post #12 of 13

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Originally Posted by Robin Sadler View Post

FYI, Ledges at Okemo is not used for racing and that homologation will not be renewed when it expires.


 

Oh, that's a shame.  New England is lacking in good, homologated, longer DH courses these days, and I feel sorry for the juniors coming up through the ranks who have such a pittance of experience on longer DH courses.  It's no wonder that the western USSA divisions are seeing an influx of racers from eastern divisions entering their speed series: it's the only way to get a taste of the real McCoy these days.  While I understand the upkeep of facilities on DH courses (e.g. A-netting installations) is pricey, it's costly to the sport when the courses go away.

post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by Robin Sadler View Post

  • Stowe has several FIS homologated trails and the trail used varies with the level of the race field - check the FIS web site for a list of approved trails
  • Killington has used Highline in the past but will use other trails too - check the FIS web site for their list
  • Pico - see FIS web site
  • Stratton used North American and Standard - these trails are frequently closed for race training
  • Bromley tends to be SL only but check see FIS web site
  • Suicide Six use The Face for SL only
  • Okemo uses Chief for SG & GS and Wardance for SL


Okemo uses Chief for DH/SG/GS, and Wardance for GS/SL. The GS races that are run of Chief tend to be alot more like Super-G sets, while the ones held on Wardance tend to be more technical. I remember running VT SG and GS champs at Okemo a couple of years back, both on Chief. The GS was almost identical to the SG, aside from fewer undergates (the SG had 7 from what I remember).

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