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MX - 88 lite !

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 

Still looking for the right ski without going to demo route.....

 

I need an all mountain ski for an advanced skier.  Only skiing out west.  I am looking for a ski that works well in most western ski conditions.  I will predominantly be on piste and do like the courderoy.  I have Kastle MX - 88 which I love but I want a lighter more forgiving ski with a touch more flex that can also make some nice gs turns.....I basically want to go from a Porsche down to a BMW 7 series.

 

Thinking:

 

Fischer Watea 84 or Motive 84,

Dynastar Sultan 85,

K2 Rictor,

Stockli Stormrider VXL

 

I would consider anything ~ 78 -  85 underfoot

post #2 of 19

Add the Elan Apex to your list.

 

Look over on the review forum for more info from myself, Dawg and a few others.

 

I recently took a few runs on the Sultan 85. Fun. Very quick. Good edge hold and nice rebound energy. Huge sweet spot - I understand why it's very popular here in Colorado but doesn't have the high end of the Kastle or the Elan.

 

In conversation, Dawgcatching told me the mx88 & VXL are extremely similar.

 

post #3 of 19

If you like the Kastle feel, just not the beef, suggest either this year's FX94 or next year's LX92. Otherwise, yep the Apex would be a good alternative. Also might think about the Watea 94 for lighter and flexier yet, but still hard snow integrity. 

post #4 of 19
Thread Starter 

thanks all for the informed opinions

post #5 of 19

Based on your OP, you're looking for a cruiser.  And if you're staying on piste doing groomers, I'd say something like a Motive 80 (the 84 tends to be a bit more aggressive), or even better the Kastle FX84, which I have heard great things about.  The Apex is great, but like it nearly identical cousin the Kendo, it can ski pretty aggressively as well.  

post #6 of 19

FX84 maybe?  If you can find an FX74 you can probably get a good price on it because theyre being discontinued.  

post #7 of 19

Next years BMX88, that is the MX88 Lite.

post #8 of 19
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Next years BMX88, that is the MX88 Lite.



In what respects Phil?  I know that the BMX88 has Hollowtech tail, but what are the other differences?

post #9 of 19

No metal.

post #10 of 19
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Next years BMX88, that is the MX88 Lite.



In what respects Phil?  I know that the BMX88 has Hollowtech tail, but what are the other differences?


As Epic says, no metal plus a bit of early rise in the tip along with the rounded hollowtech tail makes it a very easy ski to ski w/o loosing the performance feel that we have come to expect from a Kastle. 

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

Next years BMX88, that is the MX88 Lite.



In what respects Phil?  I know that the BMX88 has Hollowtech tail, but what are the other differences?


As Epic says, no metal plus a bit of early rise in the tip along with the rounded hollowtech tail makes it a very easy ski to ski w/o loosing the performance feel that we have come to expect from a Kastle. 


I'll reserve judgment until I try it, but it sounds about as appealing to me as non-alcoholic beer

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

Next years BMX88, that is the MX88 Lite.



In what respects Phil?  I know that the BMX88 has Hollowtech tail, but what are the other differences?


As Epic says, no metal plus a bit of early rise in the tip along with the rounded hollowtech tail makes it a very easy ski to ski w/o loosing the performance feel that we have come to expect from a Kastle. 


I'll reserve judgment until I try it, but it sounds about as appealing to me as non-alcoholic beer



I have skied it, and while the BMX is NOT an MX (one of the reasons the 98/108/128 were re categorized), it is still a Kastle and the BMX88 is still one of the better 88 waisted skis for next year. 

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

Next years BMX88, that is the MX88 Lite.



In what respects Phil?  I know that the BMX88 has Hollowtech tail, but what are the other differences?


As Epic says, no metal plus a bit of early rise in the tip along with the rounded hollowtech tail makes it a very easy ski to ski w/o loosing the performance feel that we have come to expect from a Kastle. 


I'll reserve judgment until I try it, but it sounds about as appealing to me as non-alcoholic beer



I have skied it, and while the BMX is NOT an MX (one of the reasons the 98/108/128 were re categorized), it is still a Kastle and the BMX88 is still one of the better 88 waisted skis for next year.

 

skis more like a 350z compared to the 911 mx and cayman fx ?

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

Next years BMX88, that is the MX88 Lite.



In what respects Phil?  I know that the BMX88 has Hollowtech tail, but what are the other differences?


As Epic says, no metal plus a bit of early rise in the tip along with the rounded hollowtech tail makes it a very easy ski to ski w/o loosing the performance feel that we have come to expect from a Kastle. 


I'll reserve judgment until I try it, but it sounds about as appealing to me as non-alcoholic beer



I have skied it, and while the BMX is NOT an MX (one of the reasons the 98/108/128 were re categorized), it is still a Kastle and the BMX88 is still one of the better 88 waisted skis for next year.

 

skis more like a 350z compared to the 911 mx and cayman fx ?


No, more like a Benz coupe. 

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^^^Reading these nested windows is beginning to be like staring at a page of sub-routine. I propose a new rule: No more than 3 nested quotes in a new one...

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^^^Reading these nested windows is beginning to be like staring at a page of sub-routine. I propose a new rule: No more than 3 nested quotes in a new one...


In total agreement. Also consider banning references to cars that 99.99% of skiers will never drive. I'm still pissed that my former Philly bud Philpug only let me drive the VW Turbodeisel and not the balance of the fleet.

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In total agreement. Also consider banning references to cars that 99.99% of skiers will never drive. I'm still pissed that my former Philly bud Philpug only let me drive the VW Turbodeisel and not the balance of the fleet.



I agree

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^^^Reading these nested windows is beginning to be like staring at a page of sub-routine. I propose a new rule: No more than 3 nested quotes in a new one...


In total agreement. Also consider banning references to cars that 99.99% of skiers will never drive. I'm still pissed that my former Philly bud Philpug only let me drive the VW Turbodeisel and not the balance of the fleet.



I agree



Me too.  Oh wait...

post #19 of 19
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Still looking for the right ski without going to demo route.....

 

I need an all mountain ski for an advanced skier.  Only skiing out west.  I am looking for a ski that works well in most western ski conditions.  I will predominantly be on piste and do like the courderoy.  I have Kastle MX - 88 which I love but I want a lighter more forgiving ski with a touch more flex that can also make some nice gs turns.....I basically want to go from a Porsche down to a BMW 7 series.

 

Thinking:

 

Fischer Watea 84 or Motive 84,

Dynastar Sultan 85,

K2 Rictor,

Stockli Stormrider VXL

 

I would consider anything ~ 78 -  85 underfoot



I haven't skied the BMX, so I will steer clear of that conversation.  However, I can shed some light on the other skis.

 

Watea 84: quite off-piste oriented in feel, light on the snow, good float, versatile.  Nothing like the MX88

Motive 84: a bit beefier, snappier, a more exciting groomer ski, still great off-piste, has a bit of the race-bred feel to it

Sultan 85: much more damp, not as refined as the MX88, has a lower top end and also can go slower when putting along.  Easy, likes to arc small turns, versatile, goes anywhere

K2 Rictor: probably the least substantial of the above, damp, quite a bit of energy, not the best edgehold, skis short, probably the most intermediate-friendly

VXL; similar quality to the Kastle, probably better for light skiers, similar performance, quite a bit softer at the tip, a very special ski.  Great choice for an MX88 lite.

Apex: a little lighter, snappier, great in bumps, a bigger turn radius at 21m, a bit more off-piste oriented. 

 

All of these have a GS feel to them.  Also worth considering is the Magnum 8.1 from Blizzard. I have been skiing that on boilerplate the past few days, and it holds 98% as well as the 70mm race-like skis I am also skiing.  Great carver, maybe more along the MX88's performance than underneath it though. 

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