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Kastle FX84 on East Coast

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Pros: Loves Crud and Bumps, Turns tight Cons: Not Many Review of Kastle FX84, 168 with Carbon Knee Binding Thanks for all the great reviews on Kastle, I would not have tried this ski if I had not read about it on Epic Ski. Recently bought a FX84/168 after skiing it, the 176cm version, and the MX 78 and 88 in both lengths over the last 2 weeks. My intent was to add a ski to a Gotama (2010, 186cm), and vist X-free, (172). I was looking for a ski that is great in crud and bumps, easy to ski slow with family, and still good at speed and on hardpack. After trying the MX (which I loved), my conclussion was the MX was fantastic at speed, but a handfull to ski slowly in crowded conditions, or with slower family/friends. The FX filled the bill at both high and low speeds Crud: the ski handled crud as well as the MX, but more softly. Almost like you don't feel it. Turns in crud were positive and stable. Ice/Hardpack: Very good on hardpack, clearly all I need. OK on Ice, a bit of chatter and a bit of tail wash out (maybe my stance?). MX was better here. Bumps: Wow. these skis were great on all types of bumps - even big VW sized with ice between, and they were super on fresh moguls. I was skiing 50% faster and very smooth. Turns: the tighter the better. This ski as OK ebnergy in the tail, and the tail is easy to old on a edge, or to release to get a tighter line. This is the primary area I felt the FX ski was better than the MX. Big turns, fast runs. this ski handled everything well, and no one was passing me, but it is not af fast as the MX nor the Vist. This is more noticable on long blues that steep blacks. Size: I specifically wanted a very tight turning ski, so after a lot of thoght got the 168. I like it. It feels more playful and is quick and light. The 176 was more stable and more comfortable at speed. If it was my only ski the 176 would be better.
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Your size/weight?  Skill?
Thanks

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Steve's review is spot on and very similar to what I would write.  I own the FX84 in the 176cm length and love them in just about every condition.  I find them to be very user friendly with a big sweet spot.

 

Steve, you should have also tried the RX/RX12.  I have a pair of those as well and they are also very user friendly.  Better than the FX84 on hard snow and even more stable at speed than the FX.  I think they are fantastic, but if I had to own only one of the two pairs it would be the FX84 because they are so versatile.

 

Mike

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What I like about Steve's review is his focus on matching personal needs to the selected ski. Looking for a little more relaxed skiing without giving up a lot of performance. Fills a specific need in a quiver, a ski to have fun on. Chooses a shorter length than many would recommend to facilitate turning. I ski, and love, the MX88 in the east, it's not demanding, but, it does like input and responds accordingly. Never skied the FX 84, but his review matches up with that of others. Ice and hard snow performance is better than what may be expected from a ski designed for softer snow.

 

Just an opinion, but,  the FX84 would not be my first preference as a daily driver in the east. As MikeC states, Kastle makes other hard snow skis that flat-out perform and designed for typical conditions we encounter. But, give it to me for a few days, and, I just may change my mind.

 

Enjoy the new ski, Kastle's rock!

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LP:

 

You might be surprised at how well the FX84 handles east coast conditions.  I could easily ski it as my daily driver if I didn't have the RX.  To me it feels a lot like a wider version of the Fischer Progressor 8+ that I owned before I got the Kastles.

 

Mike
 

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What I like about Steve's review is his focus on matching personal needs to the selected ski. Looking for a little more relaxed skiing without giving up a lot of performance. Fills a specific need in a quiver, a ski to have fun on. Chooses a shorter length than many would recommend to facilitate turning. I ski, and love, the MX88 in the east, it's not demanding, but, it does like input and responds accordingly. Never skied the FX 84, but his review matches up with that of others. Ice and hard snow performance is better than what may be expected from a ski designed for softer snow.

 

Just an opinion, but,  the FX84 would not be my first preference as a daily driver in the east. As MikeC states, Kastle makes other hard snow skis that flat-out perform and designed for typical conditions we encounter. But, give it to me for a few days, and, I just may change my mind.

 

Enjoy the new ski, Kastle's rock!

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200 pounds, 6 foot, ski 40 days per year, level 8 ish. Ski gotamas in 186 and vista in 172.
If you want to ski at levee 7-8-9 hard go with the mx. If you want to ski more casually, do loads of bumps and tight stuff, AND be able to ski hard when you want, this is a great choice.

For me this ski is nimble and easy when skied tight and slower, skis well fast but not as well as the mx. The mx was opposite. Great at speed, a bit more work in tighter stuff.
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