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How long does it take for the volatile organic content of ski wax to evaporate?

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Title says it all; just wondering how long I need to let skis sit in garage after waxing?  (if germane, I am concerned only with SWIX liquid glides, F4, and Cera f spray)

 

I usually don't care if I do it right before skiing, b/c I can just crack my car windows, but if I do it on an off day this is a concern.

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no one has any business using the highly toxic fluorocarbons if you are not a racer. All waxes off-gas, but the f waxes are far more toxic.

 

For all mountain skiing I can not imagine what the hydrocarbon formulas are lacking. (the ' f ' designation of your waxes indicate to me that they are probably fluorocarbon. dump them for your health and the environment. They should only be heated with proper ventilation.

 

If hohlmenkohlen race wax is not fast or durable enough for you, I'd be surprised. and minimal off gas in the car, I never notice it, and I'm pretty sensitive to chemical gasses.

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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

no one has any business using the highly toxic fluorocarbons if you are not a racer. All waxes off-gas, but the f waxes are far more toxic.

 

For all mountain skiing I can not imagine what the hydrocarbon formulas are lacking. (the ' f ' designation of your waxes indicate to me that they are probably fluorocarbon. dump them for your health and the environment. They should only be heated with proper ventilation.

 

If hohlmenkohlen race wax is not fast or durable enough for you, I'd be surprised. and minimal off gas in the car, I never notice it, and I'm pretty sensitive to chemical gasses.


Well yeah, that's why I bought the waxes... for recreational racing.  Right now I use F6L and F7L for racing, and then F4 occasionally if I'm out of others.  I bought those because they are liquid/rub-on and thus pretty easy.

 

I'm aware flourinated hydrocarbons are pretty toxic to environment and health, but I wasn't sure what fraction is volatile.  Since the point is to form a layer on your skis and not come off while on chairlift, I was under impression that some fraction of the flourinated wax would remain in the solid state and not evaporate.  I figured what I was smelling when I apply the flourinated waxes were organic solvents (probably hexane, which is of course not flourinated).

 

For the record, I have not yet even purchased the cera f spray; was just curious about that.

 

 

I didn't know the waxes were that bad.  I guess after working in two commercial chemistry labs, I'm not as hesitant to pop open hazardous chemicals.

 

 

Are any rub-ons (not requiring excessive time/ironing/fancy tools) not halogenated?

post #4 of 5

are rub ons used for applying a re-coat while staging at the start area just before a run? Is that the appeal of a wax in a solvent with an applicator?

 

at the level of racing and chemical analysis you are already well beyond me. sorry. If recreational racing is what I think it is, however, hydrocarbon should get you down the course nicely, minus the hazards. Hot waxing is not chemical engineering, though that wouldn't stop you. biggrin.gif

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thanks for your input... I'll keep this stuff in mind once I run out of my current bottles of the liquid wax.

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