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Western January High Pressure

post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 

After nearly 20 consecutive years of Utah trips I am convinced that Jan 20- Feb 10 is doomed.The 2 week high always seems to hit in this time frame.  Looking through Alta's snowfall history day by day, long dry stretches seem pretty rare outside of these dates.  But the snow totals for Jan and Feb never seem tpo be affected much. 

 

Is this well known phenomonon?  Should we switch to early March?

 

Too late to do anything this time, set for Powder Mtn/Alta combo Feb 7-11.

post #2 of 29

You have brought me out of lurking.  I really hope it isn't "doomed."  Will be around Park City 9-13.  I am no meteorologist but am being optimistic thinking it could be setting up good for our time frame.  With nothing on the horizon in the next week or so, we just need something to snap in and push off that high.  At the minimum hopefully next week they can get a little more of that maintenance snow when they get 2 inches or so overnight before another big storm. - optimism is from thinking they are overdue for it...

post #3 of 29

I will be out there Feb 9-13 as well.  Been checking out long-term forecasts, but they are so unreliable this far out.  The forecast for 2 weeks from now seems to change hourly.  But from the pics, it looks like it is skiing pretty good out there now, even with the lack of new snow.

post #4 of 29
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You guys are lucky.  The later the better.  These giant highs take for ever to break down, and only after a series of storms chips away at 'em.  Of course I'm still 10 days out, so all bets are off.

 

But has anyone else noticed how bad late Jan/ early Feb seems to be?

post #5 of 29

Interesting, the worst snow I've had in UT was the first or second week in February ('06).  Beautiful blue skies, but no snow for a few weeks.

post #6 of 29

sucks. Im there this monday, was praying for some powder, its not looking to good ehh

post #7 of 29

Looks like the temps are staying pretty cool below freezing...hopefully this will keep the snow soft/packed powder until the next storm. Nothing worse than skiing 3 week old snow that has been through a couple freeze-thaw cycles

post #8 of 29

Perhaps it's staying cool in Utah, which is good as I'm headed over next weekend.  However, it was 65 here in Boulder County today, and in the 40's in the mountains.  I guess I'll see what I've got tomorrow.

 

Mike

post #9 of 29

Hate to break the news, but it was pretty warm at Alta today. I heard one of the lifties say it was 45 at the base. My car thermometer agreed with temps in the lower 40s at the base. Still was a beautiful blue bird day and the snow was fine. Greeley bowl had some soft stuff. Not sure how it will be by Monday.

post #10 of 29

Had a decent day at PCMR today - accomplished my first double black through trees!  A really warm and sunny day and the snow was just fine.  Like cake frosting.  Praying for more powder to be delivered this week because we want to go back to our home resort (Solitude) and enjoy fresh stuff in Honeycomb Canyon.

post #11 of 29

It's high pressure system all right. We skiied Deer Valley yesterday, and boy that sun was hot.  Off the groom, the snow is still soft and dry but more is very much needed.  And SLC has a lovely thick yellow fog/smog inversion smothering the city.  There's some weather coming in Sunday/Sunday night that will hopefully clear it out and bring the all-important snow, but no one's calling a dump, unfortunately.

post #12 of 29

Man I hope this isn't all the major snowfall we are going to get this season. Got some good days in but.........

post #13 of 29
Thread Starter 

Take, heart, this little storm coming in is getting an upgrade.  Latest prediction for Little Cottonwood is 6-14".  Better yet, each update seems to up the ante.  So the trend is good.  And it well get colder afterwards, so maybe it will hold together a little longer.

post #14 of 29
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Originally Posted by hirustler View Post

Take, heart, this little storm coming in is getting an upgrade.  Latest prediction for Little Cottonwood is 6-14".  Better yet, each update seems to up the ante.  So the trend is good.  And it well get colder afterwards, so maybe it will hold together a little longer.



It's looking pretty promising now...I have seen predictions of 10-16" which would sure help the cause out.  Plus the super cold temps this week will keep it soft until what looks like a storm moving in next weekend/early next week.

post #15 of 29

You guys are getting my hopes up!  I was vaguely thinking about trying Solitude (on my lonesome, sigh) tomorrow. I'm wondering when the pre-weather RAIN will roll in though. Then again, I don't mind rain but pre-frontal weather tends to be warm and moist and makes the snow gloppy.

post #16 of 29

OMG.......Do not say the R word or even think it for the next four months! .............. S words only.........And think Cold ....Damn Cold..........................Geez

post #17 of 29

I don't care about anything beyond the next 1.5 weeks cos that's all I have. I want powder dumps every night until Tuesday 8th Feb, cold clear days, and free beer.

post #18 of 29

There is no meteorological reason for a 1-2 week midwinter period to have a snowfall dip relative to preceding and following weeks.  Snowfall is volatile and false trends can last as long as a decade and mean nothing.  With regard to early March, I visited friends during 4 days of their Snowbird timeshare week from 1996-2008 and experienced well under half normal snowfall during those visits. I finally bought my own timeshare, and the last 2 years I've been there the whole week and had average snowfall.

 

But yes, these high pressure systems can be persistent, particularly in California. Utah seems to get storms from multiple directions: the droughts rarely lasts as long as a month there like they can in California.

post #19 of 29

This storm keeps flipping back and forth.  Looks like now 2-3 days of light snow.  Next weekend and early week could be promising.  Seems like a few inches and colder temps will certainly help out the cause.

post #20 of 29

My oath. Solitude was hard pack city today, off the groom was better but I don't know the resort well enough to do much other than drop off the groomers where I could see.   Snow event seems to have lengthened, always a good thing.  There were flakes coming down up high today, light and sporadic but it was good to see.

post #21 of 29

Well, the last 2 days should help.  In last 48 hours Alta reporting 16" and PCMR reporting 8".  Extended forecast calling for showers early next week again, hopefully that magnifies again.  With the high pressure coming back in hopefully it gets pushed off again early next week and everything will set up nicely.

post #22 of 29
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Originally Posted by doozie350 View Post

Well, the last 2 days should help.  In last 48 hours Alta reporting 16" and PCMR reporting 8".  Extended forecast calling for showers early next week again, hopefully that magnifies again.  With the high pressure coming back in hopefully it gets pushed off again early next week and everything will set up nicely.



With a refreshed surface and cold temps for the next weeks, I think we will be set up nicely for our trips next week.  The snow should be soft and lets hope that the showers next week build again.  But very thankful for this dump.

post #23 of 29

Alta got a fair bit, and the wind seemed to have packed it in a bit. Underneath was still hard but the packed fresh was doing a good job of coating it.  Bloody cold though, frostbite weather.

post #24 of 29
Looks like this weekend could turn into a decent storm like last weekend. So far reports I'm seeing are 6-12 in. For LCC. Hoping so since I head out there Tuesday.
post #25 of 29
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Originally Posted by wasatchskier View Post

Looks like this weekend could turn into a decent storm like last weekend. So far reports I'm seeing are 6-12 in. For LCC. Hoping so since I head out there Tuesday.


I am like a kid in a candy store reading this...

 

"STORM TOTALS IN THE MOUNTAINS MAY BE IN THE 1 TO 2 FOOT RANGE...BUT SPREAD OVER 4 TO 5 DAYS. AT THIS TIME DO NOT SEE THIS AS THE TYPE OF EVENT TO WARRANT A WINTER STORM WARNING...PROBABLY A LONG DURATION SNOW ADVISORY TO BE ISSUED ON FRIDAY IF MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW SAME SOLUTION. STRONG WINDS IN THE MOUNTAINS WILL ALSO NEED TO BE CONSIDERED.

 

hopefully this pans out...could line up perfectly if its the right part of the mountains. (from national weather service forecast office for salt lake city)

post #26 of 29

Which direction is the weather coming from ie which areas will get the most? Last snow event seemed to give LCC way more than anyone else. I was at Sundance today and hard pack ruled the day, with a couple of inches of new (which didn't last long).

post #27 of 29

 

* AFFECTED AREA: WASATCH MOUNTAINS SOUTH OF I-80. * SNOW ACCUMULATIONS: ACCUMULATIONS OF 6 TO 10 INCHES.

From weather.com advisory for salt lake...the other forecast earlier just said northern mountains favoring slopes facing northwest.  hope it piles on the next few days please.

post #28 of 29
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Yes looking much better for my dates (Mon-Fri). As usual LCC lined up for biggest totals.  We're supposed to ski Powder Mtn / Snowbasin Mon + Tues, but may have to visit the Cottonwoods one of those days.

post #29 of 29

Hey we might be gettin' a little somethin' somethin' next week.....Now don't whine about how little it might be..... I'll have Samuel L Jackson come tell you about "the righteous man."

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