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Advice for new ski gear clothing. Would like to find a 'slim' pant, shell only or with light insulation. Also want a gore-tex jacket

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So, I am now upgrading my clothing.  I already have the warm pant gear and find myself looking to get into a shell but in a slim-fit.

 

I have my NF Freedom's insulated for warmth but they're a little too baggy for me.  Want to get a shell pant (gore-tex?) that I can layer with but in a slim-fit.  any suggestions?

 

Also kicking around the idea of shedding my non Gore-Tex insulated jackets for something like a Arc'Teryx shell also to stick with the layering idea...  Any thoughts there, other companies I should look at?  I really like the Stingray.  I am just not too excited about the colors they are offering...

 

Thank You Epic community in advance........

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Flylow Magnum pants.

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Welcome to EpicSki!

 

I recently moved to just about all Stoic brand jackets and like them a lot.  Stoic is exclusively distributed by Backcountry.com and seems to be quality stuff so far.  Have had a number of Arc'teryx pieces in the past, but have a hard time justifying the high price tag living in the East and only skiing 15-20 days a year.  If I was out west and out in the weather 50+ days the Arc price would be easier to justify.

 

You can pick up Stoic stuff very inexpensively on Geartrade.com which is where Backcountry.com sells off their returned clothing.  Most of it was purchased and didn't end up fitting the buyer, but the tags were removed so Backcountry can't sell it as new.

 

I currently have:

 

Stoic Bombshell Jacket and Bib Pants- Shell jacket and pants that seem to be very durable and weatherproof.  Pants are a bit baggy, but not snowboarder baggy.  They have a removable softshell bib that I typically leave off since there's not that much powder here.

 

Stoic Welder Insulated Softshell-  Nearly waterproof softshell with medium level of insulation.  Good with only a baselayer down to 10-15 degrees.  Note that this jacket fits very athletically (ie. skinny) so size up if you want to use layers.
 

Stoic softshell pants- Not fully waterproof, but very close and very comfortable.

 

Backcountry.com Shift softshell- uninsulated softshell that's very water resistant and nearly waterproof.  This is my fall and spring jacket for everything outdoors.

 

Norrona Lofoten Softshell- Great uninsulated softshell hooded jacket with all of the bells and whistles (many pockets, audio port, goggle cleaner, thumb gauntlets.  Not particularly wind resistant, but should be great for warm spring skiing.  Norrona can be very expensive, but you can find it on GearTrade.com and SteepandCheap.com for reasonable prices.

 

GearTrade is great, I've not paid more than $150 for any of the above pieces of clothing all of which list price for $200-300.  Most were right around $100.

 

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Also kicking around the idea of shedding my non Gore-Tex insulated jackets for something like a Arc'Teryx shell also to stick with the layering idea...  Any thoughts there, other companies I should look at?  I really like the Stingray.  I am just not too excited about the colors they are offering...

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I'll second the Stoic softshell pants.  They are very slim fitting and nicely done.  They are lightly insulated and somewhat stretchy...but not like stretchpants of yore.

 

I got them from BC.com when they were doing a 50% off Stoic sale.  Good stuff (although all of it seems to be sized a little weird)

 

BTW, I got TNF "Mountain Pant" Goretex shell pants from Geartrade.  Bomber and a good price (used).  Also got an OR Mentor Goretex pro shell jacket, which I love.  It was priced low due to a "non working" zipper and a grease stain.  The latter came out in the wash and the zipper works fine, just a bit tight (like most of OR's stuff).

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Thanks MikeC for a great and nicely priced pant.  Unfortunately my body size does not work with the Stoic's... I am a 33-34 waist with a 30 inseam.  Based on the reviews, I would be in between sizes M & L...
 
I really wish they had a short Medium...  BC ya listening???
post #6 of 11

Buy the large and have a tailor shorten them a few inches.  I'm a 34 waist and the large fits perfectly.

 

Mike
 

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Originally Posted by MikeC View Post
 
 
Thanks MikeC for a great and nicely priced pant.  Unfortunately my body size does not work with the Stoic's... I am a 33-34 waist with a 30 inseam.  Based on the reviews, I would be in between sizes M & L...
 
I really wish they had a short Medium...  BC ya listening???
post #7 of 11
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Not sure if that would be possible Mike.  zipper would have to be shortened snaps moved.  Not as easy as hemming a pair of slacks or jeans...

 

I only wish it was so easy.  I'm really liking these..
 

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Buy the large and have a tailor shorten them a few inches.  I'm a 34 waist and the large fits perfectly.

 

Mike
 

 
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Should be no problem for an experienced tailor.  Shortening the zipper is as easy as moving the crimped end stop up and cutting off the extra below.  The leg opening is actually fairly wide at the bottom so loosing a couple of inches of zipper wouldn't hurt anything.
 

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Not sure if that would be possible Mike.  zipper would have to be shortened snaps moved.  Not as easy as hemming a pair of slacks or jeans...

 

I only wish it was so easy.  I'm really liking these..
 

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Originally Posted by MikeC View Post

Buy the large and have a tailor shorten them a few inches.  I'm a 34 waist and the large fits perfectly.

 

Mike
 

 
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Originally Posted by gman44116 View Post

Not sure if that would be possible Mike.  zipper would have to be shortened snaps moved.  Not as easy as hemming a pair of slacks or jeans...

 

I only wish it was so easy.  I'm really liking these..
 

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Originally Posted by MikeC View Post

Buy the large and have a tailor shorten them a few inches.  I'm a 34 waist and the large fits perfectly.

 

Mike
 

 


I just chop them and sew them up, who uses those zips. and who cares what the cuff looks like?

post #10 of 11

Arc'teryx pants are cut pretty slim.  Pick a model according to the desired features.  

post #11 of 11

Last week BC was offering Stoic at "buy 2 sizes send back one" promotion.  Not sure if that's still going on, but I'm a 34 waist and 31 inseam...and I have the mediums.  You asked for a slimmer fit pant, so that might be the ticket.

 

Order the M & L and send back (free--if the promotion is still on) the one that doesn't fit.

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