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Salomon scream 10 pilot 2002 factory base and sidewall bevel angles ??

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Hello everyone,
After searching forum posts on the web, I am reading that salomon ski's have a 1 degree base bevel and a 2 degree sidewall bevel.  The girl at "Amer Sports Winter & Outdoor Americas" told me all their current ski's have a 1 degree bevel on BOTH base and sidewall. 


I asked if she knew about the past models, she said they don't have that on file and there is no way for her to help me, and they have no record of past models.  she was fuggin useless... clueless, lazy or all of the above.  There is no email address for salomon ski's that I can find, I had to call Amer sporting goods which apparently owns salomon.  

Can anyone tell me with any proof or certainty what the factory sidewall bevel is for this 2002 scream pilot 10 ski is?  Is it 1/1 or 1/2 ? (visually identify this ski by it's olive green color with yellow accents)
here is a link to a picture of it - Salomon Scream 10 Pilot [2002]
http://www.kenkoinfo.net/ski/en/2002.html


I have ruined GS world cup racing ski's in the past by having them tuned (what turned out to be MAJORLY DETUNED) by a shop with a crap tuning machine or employee... so until this point i have hand filed and used a stone to take out the burrs on my Pilot 10's , but it's getting to be time to do a machine tune.

Please help 

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Tognar has a page that might help you determine for yourself what the current bevels are...

http://www.tognar.com/bevel_edge_tips_file_bevel_ski_snowboard.html

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Tognar has a page that might help you determine for yourself what the current bevels are...

http://www.tognar.com/bevel_edge_tips_file_bevel_ski_snowboard.html


That tells you dimensions for a tru bar on ski edges for a 60mm waist ski.  Scream 10s are 70mm so it won't be quite correct.. In fact, it would only be correct for a 60 mm waist ski if there is such an animal.

 

I have some 02 Scream Pilots and I'm pretty sure they came 1-2.  I have since filed them flat like most of the non-race skis in my current quiver now at 0-2.  The rest are around 1/2-2

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I am decent and careful with the stone so i should not have fugged it up too much so far.

I read it's somewhere between 0.5 and 1 base bevel and anywhere from 1-3 sidewall but I didn't want to guesstimate, (I did run across that site in my travels earlier, good resource thanks) I would really just like to know what the factory specs were on these salomon's for that year so i can get them back that way. 

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Originally Posted by TheRusty View Post

Tognar has a page that might help you determine for yourself what the current bevels are...

http://www.tognar.com/bevel_edge_tips_file_bevel_ski_snowboard.html


That tells you dimensions for a tru bar on ski edges for a 60mm waist ski.  Scream 10s are 70mm so it won't be quite correct.. In fact, it would only be correct for a 60 mm waist ski if there is such an animal.

 

I have some 02 Scream Pilots and I'm pretty sure they came 1-2.  I have since filed them flat like most of the non-race skis in my current quiver now at 0-2.  The rest are around 1/2-2


 

ahh, hmm,  that is correct the 2002 scream pilot 10 read , R19 SC 108 / 70 / 101

it does seem that so far, things are leaning towards it's a 1 - 2  base to sidewall , I am just trying to be sure before i pull the trigger on a machine tune or stone grind

post #6 of 7

Check the toe piece wing width on those bindings while you are at it.  Those binding toe pieces are notorious for rattling loose width wise.  I have to tighten mine back up after about a week of hard skiing on them.  Some folks squirt some krazy glue or loc tite in them to help that problem.

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Someone either here or at TGR might still have one of the old shop manual files.    

 

There was a time when Salomon factory tunes had more than 1 degree base bevel, more like 1.5 or 2 degrees base bevel. 

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