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post #61 of 77
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Originally Posted by Tartan1 View Post

Hey Rickg,

 

Nice review. I ski the east and am looking for a wide ski I can take west too. Did you prefer the Kendo or the Mantra's ? I'm a 5'11" and 195lbs advanced skier. I understand that the wide boards wont work the frozen bumps as well, but I ski the whole mountain short, long turns, groomers and glades. Sounds like the Kendo might be the better option, but the new Mantra sounds intruiging. Local rental/demo shops don't carry either unfortunately.  


The Kendo was more familiar, like a wider GS Race ski. Definitely more eastern oriented. The Mantra felt wider but also very responsive. More of what I think I want for the occasional eastern day and western vacations. I was thinking of selling my AC30's but maybe I will keep them as well. I really do love them!

Rick G
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Hey Rickg/ Tartan1-

 

I am wrapping up my 2nd season on the 2010 version of the Mantra and couldn't be happier.  I'm 180, 5'-10" and went with the 177.  Rickg, I actually ski at Holimont and have been on it everyday this season.  I kept my old Atomic M11 for frozen over eastern days but we thankfully haven't had many of those up there.

 

I selected the Mantra to ski both in EVL as well as on 3-4 trips per year out west and the Mantra has been a good choice for both.  I only wished that I had a bit more ski this past January in the back bowls at Vail where we had 4 straight days of 16+" per day but it was still a blast.  The Mantra was also perfect in the steep tight trees and no new snow at Red a few weeks ago.

 

If I were to do it again, I might go to the 184 but since I now have the 177 Mantras, I might expand the collection to the 184 Gotama or even the Kuro for big western trips.  Would love anyone's feedback on the Kuro and it's abilities on those trips where there is no new snow and you're rellegated to the groomers.

 

My 2 cents on what I have skied, however its apparent there are a lot of changes for 2012.

 

5'8"/165lbs, New England Skier, with 2-3 trips out west....In the past I have skied the Mantra(177,184), The Got(178,186), and the Kuro in a 185.   currently ski the Tigershark 10 in a 175, and the Gotama(2011) in a 186. Point being, If I could only choose one ski it would have been the Mantra in a 177 like you did. I found the 184 would be a bit long. 

 

I skied the Kuro last year in Squaw Valley, 26 inches of new, so really cant give you a first hand review on how the ski behaves on hard pack. They did haul ass, chew up the chunder in the afternoon like it wasn't even there, and of course rips the pow like a dream. I did ski with somebody a month ago that owns a pair and has skied them on hard pack(east coast). He says they work much better than one would assume, but at the same time "OK" at best.  If its that deep ? Rent a pair of Kuro's.

 

I LOOOOOVE my Got's SOOOOO much. Those things put the biggest smile on my face every time I ski them. Hard pack they are good but not great (I didn't buy them for hard pack). They ski the spring slush, pow, crud, wind blown, and every other condition thats soft very very well.   However, if I owned a pair of Mantras I wouldn't buy the Got's (Not the same ski at all , just to close to be in the same quiver of skis). Plus, next years Got will have less rocker than this years, and I assume will ski more like the current Mantra(different but similar feel), I am glad I grabbed this years, as I think next years will sway away from the pow ski it was intended to be. I get why Volkl is doing this though, the ski will appeal more towards the one ski quiver market, and ski everything a little better. 

 

If I were you, I would be looking at the Shiro, that thing sounds like it will be a kick ass ski but still different enough to compliment your Mantra's and rip the west as well. 

 

post #63 of 77
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Originally Posted by Tartan1 View Post

Hey Rickg,

 

Nice review. I ski the east and am looking for a wide ski I can take west too. Did you prefer the Kendo or the Mantra's ? I'm a 5'11" and 195lbs advanced skier. I understand that the wide boards wont work the frozen bumps as well, but I ski the whole mountain short, long turns, groomers and glades. Sounds like the Kendo might be the better option, but the new Mantra sounds intruiging. Local rental/demo shops don't carry either unfortunately.  




The Kendo was more familiar, like a wider GS Race ski. Definitely more eastern oriented. The Mantra felt wider but also very responsive. More of what I think I want for the occasional eastern day and western vacations. I was thinking of selling my AC30's but maybe I will keep them as well. I really do love them!

Rick G


Sunday River Sports have the Mantra available for demo, I assume any Boyne Resort Ski Shop would have them. Not sure about the Kendo.

 

post #64 of 77

Can someone give me advise for a new set.  Currently ski AC50 in 177, 6' 2" 245lbs Adv/expert looking to get a more powder ski.  Looking at the Gotama or Katana from 2011, but not fully saved up for a second set yet.  Ski Tahoe area with an occasional Park City trip, want a ski that will go deeper than my AC50, but capable of groomers late in the day.  Not in need of a do all ski, plan AC for hard days when it hasn't snowed for awhile and then when mother nature continues to dump as she has this year a fun powder/crud fun ski.  Local shops have advise on the Gotama, just looking for advised based on 2012 skis.

post #65 of 77

Philpug......I'm gonna just through this out there. Going with the 183 Code Speedwall this year. Looking for an opinion on putting a Marker Piston plate on them? I am assuming they would give more leverage to the ski as plstes alway do, but at the same time the ski has tip rocker for easier initiation. Do you think the plate would produce an overkill effect on the ski from an initiation stand point. I've had several skis with plates in the past, and like the feel they give. Just looking for feedback.

post #66 of 77

did you find what size to get? I ordered the 184 katana's. I'm 6'4" 210#'s. I was going to get the 191 but read that the new line,  skis about 3" longer then last years model. I also have the 177 ac50 for hard pack days.

I was going back and forth between the 184 and 191's. I hope trhe 184's was the right choice.

steve

post #67 of 77

I was about to purchase the Kendo and then i thought about the RTM's 84. I have tried and very much like the Kendos, but with all this rocker talk I am beginning to wonder if I sould get the RTM 84. I will ski mostly on east cost.  I'm just wondering how different will the skiing be with the rocker.  If anybody has tried both of these please shed some light. Love the Kendos, even the design is sick..but it's just this rocker thing that's holding me back. I'm just wondering if it's really worth getting the RTM with rocker before I even demo them??

post #68 of 77

I don't understand why Volkl says the RTM line (full rocker) is the successor to the AC line (no rocker). Seems like they would be very different skis -- a philosophical change in what Volkl considers "all mountain."

 

post #69 of 77

The RTM series isn't even full rocker. Base to base they are flat with rocker in the tip, if their is any in the tail it's barely noticeable.

post #70 of 77

Agreed--they seem to have no camber at all (either normal or reverse). A very different ski than the AC series.

post #71 of 77

Hey there I am thinking of geting the Code Speedwall 181cm, coming from Tigershark PS 168cm. Did you get them? do you like them?

post #72 of 77
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I was about to purchase the Kendo and then i thought about the RTM's 84. I have tried and very much like the Kendos, but with all this rocker talk I am beginning to wonder if I sould get the RTM 84. I will ski mostly on east cost.  I'm just wondering how different will the skiing be with the rocker.  If anybody has tried both of these please shed some light. Love the Kendos, even the design is sick..but it's just this rocker thing that's holding me back. I'm just wondering if it's really worth getting the RTM with rocker before I even demo them??


Curious if the Kendo has early rise this year, since the Mantra does. 

post #73 of 77
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Curious if the Kendo has early rise this year, since the Mantra does. 


Kendo does not.

post #74 of 77
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post


Curious if the Kendo has early rise this year, since the Mantra does. 



No it doesn't, but a little early rise on that ski could work very nicely...

post #75 of 77
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Hey there I am thinking of geting the Code Speedwall 181cm, coming from Tigershark PS 168cm. Did you get them? do you like them?



Let me know if you get anywhere with this, or end up purchasing them.  I have The Tigershark (Non-switch) in a 175, and am looking at the Code Speedwall as well. Not that I don't like my Sharks, but have have them awhile and interested in something else. 

post #76 of 77

Tried the Volkl Code at Holiday Valley on the weekend.  If I wasn't so honest the demo's would not have been returned.  They held their edge perfectly in the hardest pack ice on The Wall, great carving, lots of fun, incredibly fast edge to edge.  There is rarely any deep snow in our region near niagara so The Code could be an ideal ski, had a riot.

 

post #77 of 77

So I ended up with a 165 Speedwall SL. I tried a rossi "rocker" and didn't love it. Unfortunaltely, I hear that the Code is a much better ski than the rossi is BUT I just had to stay with what I know.

I actually love the ski. It's a little extra nervous when I try and go big arcing turns (these skis love to turn).

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