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Unleashed Hell, $999 & Unknown Legend, $1099

 

Nordica
www.nordica.com
800.892.2668 x5005
Andy Hare - Director of Product

Unleash Hell: i-core (men’s)
Ski dimensions: 143-113-132
Available length of skis: 185, 195
Target market with the featured skis: All Mountain skiers looking for “what’s next” and looking to access the newly available Sidecountry terrain.
Two-sentence description of featured ski: Backcountry inspired with All Mountain performance, the Unleash Hell is a completely new ski combining excellent performance with increased lightness technology.  Designed with High Rise rocker, i-core and optional pre-cut skins Unleash Hell provides features for going up hill with no expense to the going down performance.

Unknown Legend (women’s)
Ski dimensions: 132-80-115
Available length of skis: 156, 164, 172, 180
Target market with the featured ski: Aggressive women skiers looking a versatile ski.
Two-sentence description of featured ski: Women skiers looking for a versatile ski that offers stability and precision but is also suitable for off-piste use.

What’s on the horizon for next year’s skis?
Nordica has 13 completely new skis For 2011-12. We have expanded our High Performance Firearrow ski line by adding 4 new models, 2 men’s and 2 women’s.  EDT technology has been incorporated into the top model the Firearrow 74 EDT.

A completely new ski line called Hell and Back features 4 new models with varying waist widths all using Camrock, the evolution of Rocker Technology, i-core construction and optional precut skins.  Hell and Back skis are built for downhill performance but include uphill features for All Mountain skiers looking to explore the Sidecountry.

With the success of the Radict ski Nordica has added 2 new models to the All Terrain Freestyle category: The Patron and the Soul Rider.  Offering versatility for use on any terrain and in any snow condition with CamRock technology, wood cores and versatile waist widths these two new models meet specific needs for all mountain, backcountry, big lines and B-C jibbing.

 

Andy Hare - Director of Product

Andy Hare - Director of Product

 

What are three of the biggest forces shaping the changes and developments you’ve made?
1. Rocker. It’s good for the market. We feel we have very mature look at developments in Rocker and camber profiles. Rocker is a lot like the shape ski revolution. The first shape skis were extreme and then over time the sidecuts came back down to a more reasonable level. The reason is FUNCTION. Nordica has identified this cycle with Rocker, tested and engineered skis that provide Rocker profiles and characteristics that only improve the skier experience.

2. All Mountain Skiers looking for “what’s next” and incorporating functions of the Backcountry, Sidecountry and Park into the All Mountain experience.

3. High performance skiers looking for skis that have the latest shape and technology but are also fun and exciting. A lot of attention and developments have been made to freeride and big mountain skis over the last 5 years, the profiles, shapes and graphics get a lot of attention where High performance skis with “narrower waists” haven’t been presented with the same amount of excitement. Nordica has added 4 new skis to the Firearrow line that not only deliver just technology, but also design, shape and color.

Any completely new models (including pro models)?
We have 13 completely new ski models.

Any disappearing?
The Hotrod line has become more streamlined.

What themes are you seeing for colors/graphics?
Brilliant colors and graphics that represent the fun and excitement of skiing

Source: Ski Industry/Alexis Overbye
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"High performance skiers looking for skis that have the latest shape and technology but are also fun and exciting. A lot of attention and developments have been made to freeride and big mountain skis over the last 5 years, the profiles, shapes and graphics get a lot of attention where High performance skis with “narrower waists” haven’t been presented with the same amount of excitement. Nordica has added 4 new skis to the Firearrow line that not only deliver just technology, but also design, shape and color. ""

 

Glad to hear that those of us who enjoy cartving up the frontside haven't been forgotten.

 

Received a lot of compliments on my Doberman GS skis with the new topsheet - its unique, but you have to see it to fully appreciate the fact that the new design works.

 

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I want a 190+ Radict.

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FireArrow boots replace the venerable Speedmachines

 

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Firearrow ski collection

 

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Side Country collection

 

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Nemesis, Enforcer, Girish

 

 

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Phil, Firearrows have same last size as Speedmachines?

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Phil, Firearrows have same last size as Speedmachines?



On paper yes, but the fit is different. 

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I skied the new Patron and "sidecountry" SteadFast today...short review coming tomorrow hopefully...

I the meantime...photo below: Patrons (2 pair) on the right...Steadfast in the middle...Hell & Back on the left.

 

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Patron tip graphics

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Hell & Back and Steadfast forebody "cutaway" topsheet graphics showing i-Core

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Hi! Any suggestions for what might suit me in the new range? Looking for womens twin tip with rocker/early rise tech, 70-80mm underfoot, all mountain ski. Pretty excited about the early rise tech. Graphics all look awesome. Cheers.

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Phil, any more thoughts on the Unleashed Hell ski?  How are supplies?

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^^^^ Cirq, somewhere around here SJ said this will be one of his skis this year. He may be the Start Haus guy to ask. 

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Phil, any more thoughts on the Unleashed Hell ski?  How are supplies?



Good and good. But don't wait long. I was going to get some but they are too close to my DPS's and well there is something..well..it is a good ski. 

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Any difference other than cosmetic between the '10/11 Hot Rod Burner and the '11/12 Burner? Curious because i saw something about the Burner having early rise but no mention of it for the Hot Rod Burner.

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Hey Phil - did you try any of the FireArrow boots? I've tried them on in the shop and the flex was very different - stiff (F3)....

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^^^^ There are some comments on the Firearrow in this forum by SJ and by a female skier. Former not impressed, latter is. Suggest a search. FWIW, talked to a shop guy who said that the F1 was silly stiff (it's rated 135 at end of flex, roughly 125 at start, apparently no lie), recommended the F3 (115) as more sensible for most non-racers. No one seems to be carrying the F2 (125). 

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Originally Posted by csr_jr View Post

Hey Phil - did you try any of the FireArrow boots? I've tried them on in the shop and the flex was very different - stiff (F3)....



I have tried them on since we sell them so I can use my foot as a mental benchmark so I know what foot it WILL fit.  The boot needs the usual Nordica modification to the footboard, but with the Firearrow and the zeppa being riveted into the shell, that task is much more difficult. As SJ said, if there is an issue in the vehicular region, it will be tough to work on. As far as the flex, the middle band does feel like it is blocking the flex but the people who bought the boot didn't feel it. I have put the boot on about 12 people with two purchasing it, one man, one woman, both were F3's. 

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I bought a pair of the F3's and for me I really like the fit.  I have always liked the fit of Nordica boots I have long, wider than normal, flat feet and I really like the feel and flex of the F3 more so than the F1 my local boot fitter did not seem to carry the F2.   I am also a pretty big guy at 6'3" 260, I got the boots in a 30.5.   Although once I actually have a chance to ski them I will report back.

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just ordered some Firearrow F1's and a pair of steadfast's looking forward to the season when I get to use em! Being a graphic designer, the graphics weren't my favorite. I like most of the design but throwing that tribal stuff in on the top is pretty ugly in my opinion. i will just put some stickers over it or something. But on a side note people were complaining about the fire arrow ski graphics and the patron/ raddic graphics..I really like them very slick. Just wish the hell and back series didn't have the tribal.

 

after some time on the skis and boots i will check back and give a more important review other than they could look better ha ha ha.

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I think I forgot to post the quick reviews of the Steadfast and Patron...sorry..

 

Nordica Steadfast:

http://www.epicski.com/t/101104/review-2011-2012-nordica-steadfast

 

Nordica Patron:

http://www.epicski.com/t/101069/review-2011-2012-nordica-patron

 

 

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just ordered some Firearrow F1's and a pair of steadfast's looking forward to the season when I get to use em! Being a graphic designer, the graphics weren't my favorite. I like most of the design but throwing that tribal stuff in on the top is pretty ugly in my opinion. i will just put some stickers over it or something. But on a side note people were complaining about the fire arrow ski graphics and the patron/ raddic graphics..I really like them very slick. Just wish the hell and back series didn't have the tribal.

 

after some time on the skis and boots i will check back and give a more important review other than they could look better ha ha ha.


Hi goondock, i like that eastern quiver you've got going there. We probably ski many of the same area's so i'm particularly interested in your impressions of the Stead's, that is after you skied them a few times. The 90mm Steadfast and 84mm Burner/Hot Rod Burner (do know the diff there), are on my shortlist.

 

Btw, "city of brotherly love" here too, if you haven't seen the Wissahickon Ski Clubs ski slope on Barren Hill Rd you've gotta do a drive by, it's a trip!

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Hi goondock, i like that eastern quiver you've got going there. We probably ski many of the same area's so i'm particularly interested in your impressions of the Stead's, that is after you skied them a few times. The 90mm Steadfast and 84mm Burner/Hot Rod Burner (do know the diff there), are on my shortlist.

 

Btw, "city of brotherly love" here too, if you haven't seen the Wissahickon Ski Clubs ski slope on Barren Hill Rd you've gotta do a drive by, it's a trip!



I use to work in conshy and live in summit park which, I woudl ride by that place every day.. I often thought about checking in to see how I can join the club. ha ha ha.

 

I will let you know what they are like once we get some snow and I get some good turns in. Checked the fedex and they are getting here tomorrow. talk about a tease.  ha ha.

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Hi.  Thanks for the reviews of the steadfast and any to come.  I was originally interested in the steadfast but have since considered getting the hell and back for the deeper days and days backcountry, since I already have some volkl tigersharks which suit me well right now for groomers. 

 

My question is this:  Do you think a setup of the Hell and Back with a Marker Duke binding would be a decent setup for skiing in-bounds 75% of the time and then taking jaunts into the backcountry about 3 weeks per year?  I know this setup would be heavy, but would it be too heavy?  I also need something durable enough for the demands of skiing the resorts at putting on 25-50k of vert a day, and while i think this setup would be pretty decent there, I'm unsure of how they might perform on approaches in the backcountry?  Any opinions here?

 

Thanks much.

 

kevin

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

I was going to get some but they are too close to my DPS's and well there is something..well..it is a good ski. 


Dimensions seem, ummm, flatteringly similar.  Although the 195 would've been a nice option.  (I'd put money down for 200cm 112RPs, but not enough others did, so I ended up with 190s.)

 

post #23 of 23

Ok 2 days out on the steadfasts, skied slushy wet choppy stuff to pretty icy stuff and some bumps.. These skis are GREAT! Turn super fast when I want them to. Or go for some big GS style turns and they RIPP, just grab the edge and go stable at speed... great ski so far, no complaints.

 

So light, quick turning, hold and edge like crazy, FAST when you let them ripp and Stable. also work well in the bumps.. I am 5'11" weigh in at 225. I would definitely recommend them to a friend or stranger.

 

I don't work for Nordica either so this is an unbiased report. Two big thumbs up!

 

 

Haven't gotten to use them in real snow yet, just the man made stuff.

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