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post #241 of 265

Seriously....after skiing for 40 years, I better not be falling that much... Falling = mistake.
 

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Originally Posted by esumsea View Post

Was pronounced an advanced intermediate by my instructor at A-basin (Leon Littlebird, an excellent instructor), and I fell maybe 5-6 times that day.  Every time I got a huge laugh out of it. I totally agree with Goasyouplease.



 

post #242 of 265

If I fall anymore, something has gone miserably wrong (and I think it is this way for most experienced skiers, regardless of your "level").

 

I think maybe I fell 11 or 12 times this whole year... probably 2000 or so runs/50 days.  (however, three of those falls I never want to experience again, and they have made me a bit frightened in retrospect)

 

 

 

I think it also has to do with how hard you are pushing it, how lazy you might get in certain terrain/snow conditions (and this includes easy terrain).

 

 

post #243 of 265

79 and 2/3 times in the last 10 years.  wink.gif   

post #244 of 265

I fall a lot actually.  I'm always trying something I have not done. (well)

 

In the trees, when things get tight, and I run out of room.... well, down seems like as good an option as left or right. Maybe I should slow down ;-)

 

Sometimes I "air it out",  For some reason, my "normal response" to flight is to relax my legs,  down I go when the earth comes up to great me.  Perhaps this is normal after 60 years pass.

 

Other times, I just lean on my poles wrong.....

 

Oh well.  If you care,   tuff  'cause I don't ;-)

 

But I seldom fall "skiing" ;-)

post #245 of 265

I rarely fall on steeper or more difficult terrain... it's usually when I'm playing around and doing jumps or later in the day when I'm tired and cruising and getting a little lazy.  The funniest fall for me this season was going down Gunbarrel at Heavenly without falling, making it through all of those bumps, and then at the bottom running into some slush while tired from the run and falling not far from the lift.

post #246 of 265

Well, I don't ski very often, but for sure falling is the thing I fear the most. As my skill improved, I tried not to fall. But memory blanks cloud my brain a lot. On January 9, 2011, at Mount St. Louis-Moonstone, I collided at another person at high speed causing some injuries on my neck, left leg, and my lower back. On March 12th, on the same ski resort, on the T-Bar Alley slope, a memory blank in by brain caused me to lose steering and control and I fell into a closed tree area. Fortunately the trees are not very dense and the thick snow cushioned the impact. It takes a great deal of determination not to fall, from my experience.

 

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post #247 of 265

skied only 26 days this year, no falls.  Skied maybe 37 days last year, one hip slider.  This was my 39th season.  I am careful and I ski terrain well below my ability level.

 

I think I have actually faleen less than 5 times in last 10 years.  I dont believe that one has to fall to keep learning.  I used to believe that.  I do however keep getting better and better, more solid, more fluid, more graceful.  I am a beautiful skier.  In fact I am a tremendously beautiful skier.  Georeous. 

post #248 of 265

 

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How often do you say to yourself: I'm going to push myself to the limit and may likely fall on this line, and that's fine if I do?

Almost never at the beginning of a season b/c at this point in my life my soul would be totally crushed if I had to sit out at the due to some torn/broken body part. Surgery & rehabbing in season while everyone is playing sucks. [As an aside, if the injury was caused by someone else (ie rogue snowboarder) I would prolly be angry almost to the point of violence or at least contemplating vengence.]

 

I can't seem to get myself in the position of saying "I'm going to push myself to the limit and may likely fall on this line, and that's fine" yet, even if it's on a breakable crust covered double black b/c at this point I can't get my head to be any less conservative.... but hope to, later on in the season? Perhaps a little flask of liquid courage.

 

post #249 of 265

I know it is a good day of skiing if I fall at least once. That means I am pushing myself out side of my comfort zone and therefore becoming a better skier!
I think it is important to be ok with falling, the worst thing is to be afraid of falling because that limits what you can do. (sometimes this is one of the biggest challenges for me)

post #250 of 265
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Almost never at the beginning of a season b/c at this point in my life my soul would be totally crushed if I had to sit out at the due to some torn/broken body part. Surgery & rehabbing in season while everyone is playing sucks. [As an aside, if the injury was caused by someone else (ie rogue snowboarder) I would prolly be angry almost to the point of violence or at least contemplating vengence.]

 

I can't seem to get myself in the position of saying "I'm going to push myself to the limit and may likely fall on this line, and that's fine" yet, even if it's on a breakable crust covered double black b/c at this point I can't get my head to be any less conservative.... but hope to, later on in the season? Perhaps a little flask of liquid courage.

 


Pushing yourself to the limit is one thing.  Pushing yourself past the limit, or regardless of the limit is something else.  If you know where the limit is, you wont fall pushing yourself to the limit.  Of course, finding that limit may involve a fall or two.  Hopefully you can find that limit without deadly, or season ending falls.

 

post #251 of 265

I fall all the time usually when one of my bone headed transfers doesnt go, I 360 off something that I shouldnt have, or my ski pops of at speed.

 

Most of the time though its a pretty gentle fall, last year I only had one fall I would say was 'violent"

post #252 of 265

I fall every year...just before Winter

post #253 of 265

I don't fall too frequently. Then again, I don't get to ski all that much.

post #254 of 265

IMO, the higher level you ski at, the less you will want to fall. reason: skiing faster and on steeper terrain, falls may be more destructive. and they are inconvenient, at the least. (also, past age 60, pretty much dangerous and unacceptable due to the lack of resilience in the connecting tissue and weak bones.)

 

there is also no connection whatsoever between frequent falling and learning (except perhaps tricks and jumps).

post #255 of 265


 

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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

IMO, the higher level you ski at, the less you will want to fall. reason: skiing faster and on steeper terrain, falls may be more destructive.


Yes, and no. 

 

Falling at speed is more dangerous when you actually hit another object, or when your skis don't eject because you cranked the din to accommodate high speed chatter. 

 

Falling at extremely slow speeds is higher impact in nature.  You tend to skip and skid along when you go down while going fast.  If you fall when standing still or while moving very slowly you hit the ground more head on than glancing.  That is the main reason why I HATED skiing ballet.  I got hurt skiing ballet more times than moguls or aerials combined. 

post #256 of 265

I've decided not to fall anymore,I can't get up like I use to.nonono2.gif

post #257 of 265

I had a quick choice to make last weekend. I lost my balance while carrying two bundles of gates. Either I stood up and let the gates slide down the hill, or I fell and held onto the gates. I fell.

 

crgildart, I agree about the falling at speed. the steeper the less impact, although stopping before an impact with something occurs does become an issue. I fell in DH training in Argentina and it was actually pretty fun. The hill was falling away and off the track was about a foot of fresh. I basically stayed light and just in the powder the whole time. 60 - 0 in a white poofy cloud. :-)

post #258 of 265

... depends how hard the apres ski was that night.  Someone had to say it.  ;-)

post #259 of 265

I am 36 years old and an intermediate skier and had been away from skiing for 10yrs, but got back into the sport a few years ago.  I recently tried to do a railslide and fell pretty badly last week.  I will attempt another railslide when my left hip feel better and next time i will try to keep my shoulders in front of my feet.  To your point, that is the 3rd time in 3yrs that I have fallen.  I fall about once a year, mostly when i am really trying to push it or do bumps (which I am not good at).  That is another aspect of my skiing that I would like to improve, so I am sure I will be falling a few more times this year.

post #260 of 265
Every day.
post #261 of 265

2/3's????  please explain....


 

oh and I never fall ever.....costs too much in beer!

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79 and 2/3 times in the last 10 years.  wink.gif   



 

post #262 of 265

I fall once per 20-30 days skied on average. However I don't do park, freestyle, or jumps which probably explains these stats. I'm not pushing the limit all the time either, even though the terrain I ski is moderately difficult. As I'm over 50 I tend to be a bit more conservative. I don't zipper line the bumps any more, but on groomers I'll definitely "go for it" if the piste is empty. I tend to ski conservatively at the beginning of the season and then become more daring as it moves on.

post #263 of 265

I'm 57y/o, two years ago my Doctor told me "I know your not going to stop skiing, but don't fall on it",after he put a plate and 7 screws in my left collar bone. He let me ski 8 weeks after surgery.

 

We had 24" of freshies that day. Sure enough I fell, While I was in the air, I remembered what he said, I rolled over in the air, so my right shoulder hit first. One week later out in Steamboat I fell in deep powder in the trees. No problems. Last season I fell once or twice during normal skiing, I'm fairly agressive.

 

But in late March 2011 I had a big fell that seemed to stretch my whole body, I skied to the bottom but that was it for the day. I did something to my right ankle, I couldn't rotate it in the ski boot. I skied with my GF the next weekend but still couldn't put the ski on edge.

 

A month or so later I noticed my lower back didn't hurt anymore when I'd work on the cars. That fall seemed to put things back in alignment, things that have been hurting since Aug 2001 when I reached in the back of the car and grabbed the cooler and lifted it and twisted to pull it out. So sometimes a fall can be a good thing.

 

It took until June before right ankle felt better. When I got back on skis this year the buddy who was chasing me down hill last March and saw my explosion asked about my ankle, I had to stop and think oh yea, I did hurt it didn't I. Doesn't bother me now.

 

 

 

 

post #264 of 265

I haven't been falling much lately, and most of the times I do I think its mostly due to having my bindings set on the light side of things.  Several times where something goes a bit off and as I'm fixing it the ski comes off and down I go, usually in bumps.

The last trip I think I feel once, as I went off a small jump and saw an exposed rocks just past it and fell to avoid it because there wasn't enough space, given the snow conditions and my ability to turn and avoid it.

The trip before that I crashed twice.  Once in some hard bumps the tail caught weird and the ski poped off, otherwise I'm about 95% sure I could have recovered fine, and the second time I hit a narrow dip jump and not sure what happened but I went off of it and my ski didn't, it just stopped somehow.

 

Somewhere between 0-3 times a trip seems to be about average for me.

post #265 of 265

It's funny to think about falling.  I don't like it as I'm sure many of you agree.  I'm a tele skier, often pushing my skills, but I never really fall.  Only when I'm doing something stupid do I take a good beater.  Most times I come close to falling pulling out of it and keep skiing on.  However, one time, I hit what I thought was a soft pillow of snow straight on, but that soft pillow turned out to be covered avalanche debris.  I went ass over tea kettle so fast, I really wasn't sure what happened.  When I realized I wasn't hurt, I burst out laughing!  I'd image anyone watching was doing the same thing.  I hope some you have laughed as hard as I did after a fall.  And if you haven't, remember know one is perfect and when you make a mistake on the hill, enjoy it.      

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