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Anyone familiar with Fischer Watea series?

post #1 of 20
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hey guys,

 

I am thinking of getting myself a pair of fischer watea 84's.  Any one have experience and comments with these skis; good comments, bad comments?  I am 6' ft, and 155 pounds and I need to ski that is durable and that I can take a bunch of crud, and freeze thaw cycles in the East.  however, I hear these skis do very well in trees, bumps, and lighter powder.  I feel like this could be a one quiver ski.  Comments?

post #2 of 20

 

the Watea series is well liked. every brand making a one ski quiver type model (and they all do) will put a slightly different personality into the feel of it. So Rossi, Dynastar, Fischer, Volkl, Blizzard, Salomon, all have a unique feel, which is hard to comment on without skiing them, people develop favorites, personal taste. Fischer holding fast to traditional camber and sidecut, except for the 114 which has a pin tail for floatation. I like French skis and am developing the notion that they have a broader sweet spot than German, certainly, maybe Austrian.

post #3 of 20

I can't comment on the Watea 84's as I've never skied them; but I got the Watea 94's this year and absolutely love them (Pacific North West).  I try to demo skis whenever I get the chance, and I haven't found anything that I liked better in over a year.  The Watea series uses a wood core with carbon fiber I-beams - these make the skis very light and a nice feel to the flex.  I don't think they changed the Watea 84's from last year to this year, except some minor top sheet graphics changes.  You may be able to find a good deal on a new pair of last year's Watea 84's.

post #4 of 20

Owned one. Good at soft bumps, soft snow trees, soft snow in general. Not so good at the freeze part of the freeze-thaw cycle. I lived in Stowe for four years and would not choose the Watea 84 as my only ski for the East. If you like Fischers, the Motive 84 is a better choice as are skis like the Dynastar Sultan 85 and Sollie Enduro.

 

SJ

post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 

Well, I believe you with the Motive 84.  I currently have a Blizzard XO carver ski that I use for the groomers.  It is awful on softer snow, and I want a wider ski to be able to ski with softer snow.  I feel that the watea does have the ability to be skied on groomers; however, I don't know how well. thanks for the comments, and I will consider the motive 84's.  Because I am a patroller, and I need a ski that is more versatile then my current boards!  I feel that the wateas are the kind of ski that bring up confidence in the bumps and the more diverse terrain I want to ski.

post #6 of 20

If I were a patrol in the east, I would select a ski with some metal in it. For ice, I would want a ski with powerful dampening. I would want a sandwich construction and a full sidewall. I think the Watea is too light for a patrol. You want a heavy ski with bomber edge hold for going down a steep, icy pitch with 350 pounds on your skis.  So, plus one on Jim's post, and some of my opinion tossed in. (I did a thread asking patrol what they liked to ski a while back.)

post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

If I were a patrol in the east, I would select a ski with some metal in it. For ice, I would want a ski with powerful dampening. I would want a sandwich construction and a full sidewall. I think the Watea is too light for a patrol. You want a heavy ski with bomber edge hold for going down a steep, icy pitch with 350 pounds on your skis.  So, plus one on Jim's post, and some of my opinion tossed in. (I did a thread asking patrol what they liked to ski a while back.)


That is true. having a ski with good bite taking a sled down max of 350 pounds is a good idea.  I am also gonna look at rossingol, too.  Are you a patrolller? What do you ski on? There's a whole ton of people that ski powder skis on my patrol over in the east. ( I wish i could demo; it wouls make this decision a lot easier), The Dynastar Sultan seems like a good ski that also fits the bill.

post #8 of 20
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I have been doing some research and the line prophet 90's became something to consider also. Comments on these skis?

post #9 of 20

I own the Watea 84's as my #2 in an east coast quiver.  (My #1 is an older Fischer Race SC .. equivalent to the RX-8)  The Wateas are great in soft snow, soft bumps, trees, etc -- but are lousy after the typical snow - rain - freeze cycle common to the east.  Edgehold is pretty good on firm courderoy, but they get tossed in chunky, cut-up, frozen crud.  I'll echo SJ and say these are NOT the best choice as a one-ski quiver in the east.

 

I would try the Sultans, Volkl Kendo or Elan Apex as better all-around east coast boards in the same category as the Wateas.

post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by OldEasternSkier View Post

I own the Watea 84's as my #2 in an east coast quiver.  (My #1 is an older Fischer Race SC .. equivalent to the RX-8)  The Wateas are great in soft snow, soft bumps, trees, etc -- but are lousy after the typical snow - rain - freeze cycle common to the east.  Edgehold is pretty good on firm courderoy, but they get tossed in chunky, cut-up, frozen crud.  I'll echo SJ and say these are NOT the best choice as a one-ski quiver in the east.

 

I would try the Sultans, Volkl Kendo or Elan Apex as better all-around east coast boards in the same category as the Wateas.


Okay cool I appreciate the in put.  I really would like the wateas and their not too expensive but I going to look at Line prophet 90s, which I hear are great skis that I can take and ski ice- which it currently is sleet raining now over here in PA, and i will have the ability to ski softer snow that the wateas can.  SO many choices!

post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by skimedic13 View Post

hey guys,

 

I am thinking of getting myself a pair of fischer watea 84's.  Any one have experience and comments with these skis; good comments, bad comments?  I am 6' ft, and 155 pounds and I need to ski that is durable and that I can take a bunch of crud, and freeze thaw cycles in the East.  however, I hear these skis do very well in trees, bumps, and lighter powder.  I feel like this could be a one quiver ski.  Comments?


the Watea series is one of the most versatile all-mountain skis around. The 84 is great: awesome Eastern off-piste ski, as it holds well on hard snow, is probably more bump-friendly than any ski in it's class, and is great in mixed off-piste conditions as well. The 94 is similar, only wider, and the 98 is a great every-day Western ski for mixed-off piste conditions. They have a very unique feel, wood core and carbon tubes, which give them a light on the snow, very lively, yet not overly stiff or powerful feel (like some laminate metal/wood skis) that can be a detriment in bumps.

 

My personal opinion is that the Watea series doesn't get enough respect: it probably is as good as anyone's all-mountain line, and better than most in terms of performance vs. forgiveness ratio.

post #12 of 20

Dawg says it best again.  I wholeheartedly agree with him about the Wateas. 

 

They have been our best selling series for the last three years.  They get dissed a lot on this forum, as being too light, only for lightweights or intermediates, etc.  These comments sell these skis short, we have all types of skiers that use a Watea as their everyday ski.  The only conditions that I don't like them in, is only truly hard snow or ice, which we don't have in the west very often. 

 

Sunday we had a consumer demo at our local ski hill, and universally the Fischer Watea 84, 94, and 98 were very well received.  Only the Kastle MX series skis (which are PHENOMENAL! BTW and are in a class of their own) get as favorable responses.  For a design that is more than 4 years old, that tells you a lot about the overall quality and nature of the ski. 

post #13 of 20
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I know the wateas are fairly reasonable also.  but I live in the East coast.  Do you think those will work just as well or better? I want to ski bumps but  the east is not really known for the light fluffy powdery snow. Although We have had some powder.... very light though, like 6 " of it.

post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by dawgcatching View Post


My personal opinion is that the Watea series doesn't get enough respect: it probably is as good as anyone's all-mountain line, and better than most in terms of performance vs. forgiveness ratio.



not to hijack the thread... but almost every ski changes when you 'size up' or down from the sortta mid-size which works for you.

Q for those riding Wateas (specifically 84) what happens when you go substantial up-size or down-size, say 8 cm ? How does this ski 'work', especially if you go up-size. Does this give more directional stability and edge, without a huge hit on turning quickness? say, coming from a stiff metal ski? work in chutes/trees?

I like/prefer the 3D feel of moving up and down thru snow with depth, so think I'd stay with mid-80s underfoot...

I can't seem to find Watea Demos in 184, within easy access to me - me 168 lbs  ??? lookin for Big Western Mtn Ski...

comments ???

post #15 of 20
Thread Starter 

hahah none taken I kind of have the same questions with this ski, but Im skiing over in the East.   What do you think about them? what skis u riding on now?

post #16 of 20

Here is my $0.02. I am patroller in New England. I have been on the Watea 78s, now in my third season. I find this ski to be extremely versatile and fills all my needs as a patroller. While it does not have the ultimate edge grip of a race or carving ski, I have never found myself in need of more grip (yet). It is extremely good in crud and junk and surprisingly good in fresh snow. Since I have been on mine (mounted tele), two other patrollers have picked up a pair of these, one being a certified patroller and an exceptional skier.  So, I know you were looking at the 84, and while I have not been on that ski, maybe my experience as a patroller on the 78s can help. Light, lots of energy, carves large and small radius turns and cuts through crud. I like it a lot.

post #17 of 20
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that is just an opinion i have been looking for.  I patrol also, in Eastern Pa, so I know what conditions are like over here. SO the 78's huh? I was thinking about them in the back of my mind but i wasnt sure.  Whats the dimensions on them, and u can mount a tele binding on them? haha I 've always wanted to try.  Currently I ride on a blizzard with dimensions 109/68/97.. ha such a beginner ski. had them since i started skiing. I need a upgrade

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Originally Posted by TeleCarve View Post

Here is my $0.02. I am patroller in New England. I have been on the Watea 78s, now in my third season. I find this ski to be extremely versatile and fills all my needs as a patroller. While it does not have the ultimate edge grip of a race or carving ski, I have never found myself in need of more grip (yet). It is extremely good in crud and junk and surprisingly good in fresh snow. Since I have been on mine (mounted tele), two other patrollers have picked up a pair of these, one being a certified patroller and an exceptional skier.  So, I know you were looking at the 84, and while I have not been on that ski, maybe my experience as a patroller on the 78s can help. Light, lots of energy, carves large and small radius turns and cuts through crud. I like it a lot.

post #18 of 20

I have also found that a beefy ski is not ideal for patrolling, nor is a pure carver. We control the speed of the sled with the sled and chain, not our skis. Also, we need side slip and skid turns in certain circumstances. I find a more versatile ski a better fit for patrolling. I also have a 68mm Blizzard carver and a pair of Stockli SL skis (63mm) for my fun days. I could see adding something in the mid-90 range for big dump days, but other than that, my Watea's are really versatile.

post #19 of 20

 

 

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 the Watea series doesn't get enough respect: it probably is as good as anyone's all-mountain line, and better than most in terms of performance vs. forgiveness ratio.

 

...Amen, Dawgcatching !

post #20 of 20
Thread Starter 

alright cool, thanks guys I appreciate the in-put!  The Wateas seem versatile and very affordable so I might just get either the 78's or 84s!

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