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Boot size and foot measuring

post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 

Hi guys!

 

How much foot size measured with brands (atomic, salomon, rossignol, etc) measuring stick correspond to the proper size of the boot?

Because shell fit depends on foot length, right? Even bad fitted boot could have the right size. There should be connection foot lenght - boot size.

Dear bootfitters, you probably start with that measuring device, then do shell fit... you should have general experience on how much proper boot size differs from measured on the same brand stick.

 

It's sometimes difficult to measure shell fit, cause there is not enough space in calf area to put hand behind my heel and precisely measure shell fit. When I'm drunk it is 5mm, when I'm clear and lean forward it is about 30mm. :) J

From your experience what can you say if I measured 26.0 with Salomon stick, 26.5 with Atomic stick, 26.3mm at home measured by myself, what size Salomon Falcon (X3) boots do I need?

Why Boot companies produce sticks that show different values for the same foot? Ok boot models differs and comfort models could have 20-30mm shell fit. But there should be some guideline from manufactures: if you want really racing X3 model you need "size measured minus 0.5" if you want comfort Mission model you need "size measured plus 0.5".

Sorry, I don't know any bootfiter in my area, all I have is Epicski.com.

 

Thank you.

Nick.

 

post #2 of 7

Hi Nick,

 

Forget the marked boots size--- go by the shell check( no more than 15mm) then find a boot that is shaped closely to your foot shape---IE, wide forefoot/narrow heel etc.,etc.--- don't get stuck on a brand, unless it is the one with the right shaping.

 

mike

post #3 of 7

sounds to me as if you are measured fairly accurately as a 26.  that is the starting point after that shell fit is necessary.

 

Lou

post #4 of 7
Thread Starter 

Thank you for replies. Could you please help me to choose between shells.

I did like you said, I've stared with 26.0/26.shell, and it is really hard to measure shell fit precisely. We are talking about millimeters.

I put my foot into the shell, barely touch shell in the font, lean forward and try to put fingers behind the heel.

Then

26.0/26.5 shell: it is a little bit less than two fingers, it is possible to get two fingers there but I have to use some force and jam them (my two fingers are about 20mm). Fit seemed OK without pressure points, except one point when max flex forward, I hope it will not be a problem when it is cold, cause boot becomes stiffer. In general pretty comfortable.

25.0/25.5 shell: shell fit is less than 1 finger, same I can't get there one finger without using force. But I feel like it is not enough space above the foot, it is hard to buckle, and it is pushing everywhere. When I lean forward I still feel my fingers are touching the boot, but it is not the big problem.

I'm not a racer, but like to ski fast. I think that even 25.5 shell length is ok for me, but it just does not give enough volume and it will be nightmare to ski in 25.5 boots.

What can you recommend? Can I take boots with 26.0 shell and do not regret it?

Thank you.

Nick

post #5 of 7

can you measure the thickness of a pen, or dowel, and use that for us please.  mm are more comment then fingers.

 

do you have a good boot fitter that is helping you?    I would go with the smaller pair, and get stuff made bigger if needed.   if this is a DIY job, go 26 and add padding later...

 

are you racing/ teaching at a high end level, or a green/blue skier a few days a year?

 

do you usually ski balanced and use ankle flexion, or more a knee/hip flexer (and sitting back)?

post #6 of 7
Thread Starter 

Hi Mntlion.

Thank you for your advices!

I don't have a boot fitter, I don't know any boot fitter in my area. I have to rely on myself and your advices.

Is it possible to get boots bigger if I lack boot volume above the foot? (size 25.5 vs 26.0)

 

I'm medium level skier, I can enjoy blacks when a slope is in a good condition but I ski reds most of the time. I will never race. I hope I'll master bumps someday. I spend two weeks a year in mountains and have some fun time to time on local (small) slopes.

I usually ski balanced for classics and forward flexing for carving. I use knee/hip flexing when I jump. Prefer all-mountain skis.

I'm 160lbs, I have narrow calves ("chicken legs") ~99mm width foot, normal instep. I think that Salomon Falcon shell suits me the best because it fixes my calves very well and is ok in general.

Thanks.

Nick

post #7 of 7
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Originally Posted by mntlion View Post

can you measure the thickness of a pen, or dowel, and use that for us please.  mm are more comment then fingers.

 

I would go with the smaller pair, and get stuff made bigger if needed.   if this is a DIY job, go 26 and add padding later...

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