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How Do You Carry the Frickin' Gate Bag?!

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So this year I'm helping quite a bit with NASTAR setup up.  The Gate bag is kicking my a$$!  I'm not the strongest skier out there but ski fairly well.  I think part of my problem is that I'm only 5'7" and 175# and almost 51.  Been skiing 5 years.  The bag "feels" as if it is about 80#, so about half of my weight is added to one side of my body.  I've tried different positions (wear the bag as a sash, sling arms with bottom of bag forward, sling arms with bottom of bag back).  So far sling arms with bottom of bag forward seems to be best for traveling but awkward for set up and tear down.  I've watched others and asked others and usually get the same response "It sucks.  Just keep trying things."  The SSD did tell me what he does and that he wraps his arm around the poles to help with balancing them.

 

I know this is sounding more of a whine than anything else, but when I have to put the back back in the Start House, if I take the easier blue trail, I have to skate to the lift (I feel like the dog in "The Gringe That Stole Christmas" pulling the sled).  Or I could glide to another lift, but will have to go down a black diamond to get to the Start House.  Both paths seem to suck whatever life I have left in my legs.

 

My other issue is that in the morning when I go to set up, all the race kids are on the hill with the Start House and have gates and brushes set up.  It leaves me with a narrow channel to ski down with the bag.  Made worse in my own mind because all the race coaches are there (all nice guys and gals and great skiers) and I'm in my Instructor Jacket, they are all snickering at me.  I doubt they even notice me but I find it intimidating.

 

Is it just a matter of my legs getting stronger?  I have lost 7 # so far this year, mostly from doing this, and appreciate the weight loss and each week it does seem a little easier.

 

If I just need to suck it up; fine.  I'll do that, but any tricks of the trade would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Ken

post #2 of 13

 It will take sometime before you are comfortable with that kind of weight. I prefer to carry the bag slung over 1 shoulder bag forward. Then if I set gates turn it around to pull them. I am about the same stats as you and 7 yrs your senior after 3 years of muling I could care 2 bags. It gets tricky when the wind comes up and that bag starts getting pushed around. You will find what works for you and don't worry about anyone else. If they are seasoned racers and have set courses they know how hard it is. Have fun what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.wink.gif

post #3 of 13

Think one is fun? Try two!

post #4 of 13
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Think one is fun? Try two!


Fortunately my right shoulder is off limits for a while.  I had RTC surgery last spring and I'm still on the rebound. 

 

The other day I had to set the Start for a Snowboarders Race.  I had to ski down with the drill, rake and two 4' 2x4's.  All I could think was; "This should be entertaining".  At least to anyone watching.

 

slider,

I keep telling myself that it is making me a better/stronger skier and the SSD has me on some Zen training plan rolleyes.gif to be a better skier.  I really don't think the race coaches are even paying attention to anything other than the fact that someone is near the course they are sending the kids down.  They really are good guys and I'm freindly with all of them.  It's more in my head than anywhere else.

 

I should have lolly columns for legs by the end of the season biggrin.gif

 

Ken
 

post #5 of 13

I am a little concerned about the kids running gates near you. We do not allow any racing while the race crew is working a course,unless they are at least 50 feet away. Our first race might be canned because of R%$#. I hate working in the R$%@. 2 bags full of panels,check. Drill and bit,check. T-handle driver,check. Electronics and gate wand,check. I know I'm forgetting something. Half way up the chair......Damn it, Radio!rolleyes.gif

post #6 of 13

How many gates are you carrying?  20 gates is in appropriate size bundle for managing - 

 

Get rid of the gate bag.  Use two quality bungees, bundle the 20 (wrap the bungees top and bottom) and sling 'em over your shoulder.

 

Undo the bottom bungee when setting, the top bungee holds the bundle together adequately for dragging...

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I am a little concerned about the kids running gates near you. We do not allow any racing while the race crew is working a course,unless they are at least 50 feet away. Our first race might be canned because of R%$#. I hate working in the R$%@. 2 bags full of panels,check. Drill and bit,check. T-handle driver,check. Electronics and gate wand,check. I know I'm forgetting something. Half way up the chair......Damn it, Radio!rolleyes.gif


I'm not working the course near the kids.  I'm skiing by them to get to the course I'm going to set.  I usually have at least a groomer width to ski.  That's why I say the coaches pay attention to who is near the kid's course (above the course I'm going to set).  They're very protective of the racers.
 

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It gets tricky when the wind comes up and that bag starts getting pushed around. You will find what works for you and don't worry about anyone else. If they are seasoned racers and have set courses they know how hard it is. Have fun what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.wink.gif


For some reason I find that hitching the bag to sit higher toward the shoulder helps in wind.

post #9 of 13

BINGO!

 

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How many gates are you carrying?  20 gates is in appropriate size bundle for managing - 

 

Get rid of the gate bag.  Use two quality bungees, bundle the 20 (wrap the bungees top and bottom) and sling 'em over your shoulder.

 

Undo the bottom bungee when setting, the top bungee holds the bundle together adequately for dragging...

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Originally Posted by whygimf View Post

How many gates are you carrying?  20 gates is in appropriate size bundle for managing - 

 

Get rid of the gate bag.  Use two quality bungees, bundle the 20 (wrap the bungees top and bottom) and sling 'em over your shoulder.

 

Undo the bottom bungee when setting, the top bungee holds the bundle together adequately for dragging...



The SSD told me of this method but says it gets messy as the bundle gets smaller.  I do have a bungee that you can cinch up with using hooks.  Sort of like a lasso.  Maybe I'll try it tomorrow.

 

I agree that over the shoulder would be better as that is how I moved all the netting.

 

Today it was exceptionally easy.  I convinced the HS kid they sent to help me that he wanted to carry the bag and I would drill and set the turn gate biggrin.gif

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BINGO!

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by whygimf View Post

How many gates are you carrying?  20 gates is in appropriate size bundle for managing - 

 

Get rid of the gate bag.  Use two quality bungees, bundle the 20 (wrap the bungees top and bottom) and sling 'em over your shoulder.

 

Undo the bottom bungee when setting, the top bungee holds the bundle together adequately for dragging...


 


*2.  Not sure what the point of a bag is, we never use them

post #12 of 13

We never use bags either. Just sideslip and slide one end of the poles on the snow. Not much effort at all

post #13 of 13

 

 

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How many gates are you carrying?  20 gates is in appropriate size bundle for managing - 

 

Get rid of the gate bag.  Use two quality bungees, bundle the 20 (wrap the bungees top and bottom) and sling 'em over your shoulder.

 

Undo the bottom bungee when setting, the top bungee holds the bundle together adequately for dragging...

 

 

Yep .. Way easier than the Bag.

 

Ymmv

Steve

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