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post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

The Boot Doctors haven't responded to me yet in the other forum so I thought I would pose this question here as well !

 

I have Salomon Falcon CS skiboots and inexpensive aftermarket footbeds that I purchased at a local east coast ski shop.  I think the person who fit me did a good but he wasn't what I would call an expert bootfitter. They seemed to fit well and were both warm and comfortable. but after 3 seasons I am planning of getting a new pair of boots.  

 

  Assuming the newer version of my Salomon's (Impact Series) fit me well....Is there any reason that I should look at Surefoot, Zipfit, or any custom boots / liners etc ??  I know that the Salomons do have some customization etc that I will try to take advantage of.....but they aren't the same as custom fit boots or liners etc etc.....

 

Assuming I am happy with the fit of the Salomons....what do I have to gain by going up to the next level at surefoot zipfit dfp or whatever ??  THANKS IN ADVANCE

post #2 of 13

3 years isn't a long time for a boot - are you replacing because of poor fit. Or is it just the liner that is packed out?

 

A new custom liner is a lot cheaper and easier than starting over with new boots.

 

As for custom liners and footbeds, I think the value depends on one's particular fit issues. For many people, there is no additional value here. For others (like myself with a funky foot/ankle thing), a custom liner and footbeds helps to keep the foot neutral in the boot while providing proper fit and performance.

post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 

The liner is packed out....but the crux of my question was what I can gain by getting custom boots if I feel like I can get a good fit from standard Solomon boots !

post #4 of 13

gotcha.

the custom footbed helps  to properly support the foot in hopes of improving comfort as well as performance. While I don't think everyone needs custom liners, I think most people would benefit from a custom footbed and they can be had for $100 or so, which ain't too bad.

 

But if you are experiencing heel lift, toe bang or other fit issues, a footbed likely wont' address those issues.

post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 

Ty !

post #6 of 13

Hi,

 

I have Salomon Course 10 boots - flex index 130 since 2000. When I bought them I was so happy with this pair that I immediately bought also second same pair. After 5 years of intensive skiing I started to use the second pair which I am using even today. Because of aging of materials i changed inner shoe - liner. I have chosen Comformable racing liner with two components liquid polyurethan injection fuel. The difference between regular and racing liner is that the racing liner has inflatable "tong" as well. I had luck that the guy who did me the feting of this liner is very experienced and toke time for to do it very precise with a lot of patient. He used special neoprene stickers on the places where you have to have more space (fingers) and places where ski shoes usually press on the bones. Before we started with inflation of the polyurethane fuel he developed also custom made foot beds also racing model of Conformable. This is for sure not the best custom fitting system for racing purposes. Racers are usually using 100% custom made liners and foot beds. They are very tin, cold and uncomfortable and have only one purpose - as much as better and direct contact between ski and foot. But  by my experience on Comformable product this is one of the best solution on the market. After application of this liners I even more love my ski boots and I am sorry that I didn't do this the first day when I bought them.

Few weeks ago I bought new Salomon X3 RC CS ski boots with flex index 130 and Ive been really disappointed. I will need to work on them a lot to achieve same functionality and feelings as I have on my old 2 tweaked pairs. So, If you are in general happy with your old shoes, try to change the liners first. Try it with Comformable since I can share my good experience with you. Don't forget on race model and race foot beds and of course find an expert who will do it properly.

Because I see that you have CS model of your impact, before installation of the liners redo the custom shell process with somebody who knows exactly what is he doing...

 

All the best,

Z

post #7 of 13

one more thing... The neoprene stickers they stick on your foot, directly on the skin.. than you put on the sock and after  the feting you remove the neoprene stickers..neoprene stickers are the part of the package of comformable solution... just for to give you correct info on it..... ;) good luck!! ciao

post #8 of 13

see also this.. I am not the only one... googled a bit and I found it in the same house.. :) http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/46465/foamed-ski-boots-conformable-liner

post #9 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thx Z !

post #10 of 13

Just to piss a little on this parade (pardon the expression)- the best thing you can do for your ski boot is to have a well-fitted shell. If your shell does not fit well, no liner would make it comfortable.   From what I heard and experienced custom liners can help in some situations and in some situations they wont.  The bottom line is that you should not be shopping for a particular boot solution but rather you need to shop for a good bootfitter who will work with you on finding a solution that will fit your foot and your budget.   Epic is a great place to find that bootfitter, but it is a poor place to fit your boots...

 

A personal experience- I have spent 6 very happy years in boots fitted by SierraJim, now the liners are finally dead, so I need to either get a new pair of boots (or a new liner).  I am pretty scared of the process, given how well the current shell fits, but I know that I will get it done by the pros.  If only I could find the time when the StartHaus crew is not booked...smile.gif

post #11 of 13

I have a pair of boots that have been around the block.  They fit well, but I pounded out the inner boot over time.  I bought Intuition liners and they have made my boots better than new.  If you get replacement inner boots then you may have more years of comfort and control from the same shells.  Make sure the shell fits, if it does then why buy new when you can make what you have seem just like new for a lot less money?

post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by IanSki View Post

The liner is packed out....but the crux of my question was what I can gain by getting custom boots if I feel like I can get a good fit from standard Solomon boots !



Well, I think perhaps had the boots been properly fitted to you, then you might not have so much packing out that you would need new boots.

 

Before getting much work done to my boots, I was very skeptical too.   But it is the best investment in your skiing gear you can make.   

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Originally Posted by alexzn View Post

Just to piss a little on this parade (pardon the expression)- the best thing you can do for your ski boot is to have a well-fitted shell. If your shell does not fit well, no liner would make it comfortable.   From what I heard and experienced custom liners can help in some situations and in some situations they wont.  The bottom line is that you should not be shopping for a particular boot solution but rather you need to shop for a good bootfitter who will work with you on finding a solution that will fit your foot and your budget.   Epic is a great place to find that bootfitter, but it is a poor place to fit your boots...

 

A personal experience- I have spent 6 very happy years in boots fitted by SierraJim, now the liners are finally dead, so I need to either get a new pair of boots (or a new liner).  I am pretty scared of the process, given how well the current shell fits, but I know that I will get it done by the pros.  If only I could find the time when the StartHaus crew is not booked...smile.gif


Hi ALexzn,

 

I partially agree with you. The first step is to find proper shell for your foot. Correct... Second step is to fit this shell to perfectly suits your foot or "potato". Third step is to choose proper liner and foot bed. Fourth step is to mold your foot bed. Fifth step is to customize the liner and the sixth step is to test the boots and if something not perfect come back to the best boot fitter  which I completely agree that is the task which should be the condition before you start the process of the fitting.

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