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Foam boot liears anyone?

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Through out most of the 80s and 90s all the way untill about 2003 I skied with foam boots. Two pair of boots in fact. A pair of Koflach and a pair of Dynafit F3. The F3s I skied for 14 years. Since then Im in my 4th pair of regular boots and still remember the glory days of perfect fit. So whats the deal with foam linears nowadays? Anybody have foam linears at the moment? If you have or if you have any input on the topic please drop a line.

 

tdk

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Bootfitters seem to be moving away from foamed liners.   There seems to be a good deal against them from what I recall and with new liner technology as well as a good fitter, you don't need foam anymore....at least this is what I have been fed.   I wanted to get foam liners but was talked out of it by two different professional boot fitters.  Not to mention the foam liner setups are quite costly.   The idea still intrigues me though.

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Yes, its costly. First you buy new boots for 500usd and then you have to cash out with about the same for foam linears. And the chemicals are difficult to transport. You need to send them as special cargo or something.

 

I too believe that technology and bootfitting has developped a lot since 1989 when my last boots were foamed but then again just like you , the ide still haunts me. Companies like Strolz offer foam boots and Nordica and Head offer foam linears so there must be people using them. But who are they and how pleased are they?

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I've been reading about Formidable Boot Liners which will go in different boots and are foamed.  I'm seriously considering them for next years big purchase.  The ski shop I deal with right now in Lethbridge doesn't foam boots as their boot fitter takes a reaction to the foam or something.  They are difficult and costly for the boot fitters if htey make a mistake.  I had the dachstien v3's for 10 years and they sit today in perfect shape in my garage with me wistfully looking at them each time I head out the door.  If you have difficult to fit feet and comfort issues, I swear by foam.  I've never been comfortable in a boot other then that no matter what high end boot fitter molded and played with my boots or what custom foot bed I have inserted.

 

http://skiing.about.com/od/skiboots/ss/skibootliner_3.htm

 

To foam my orginal boots I stood on a ramp, knees bent, in ski position for 30 minutes while the foam set up around the feet.... If i moved you wreck your liners and pay for another.  I had them blown by the owner if the ski Shop in Collingwood, On and he was the guy that knew how to do the boots right.  My husband had 2 or 3 liners made by him also.  I only wish Pete hadn't retired last year and closed up or I'd be going to him.  I am also interensted in a anyone that knows of a shop with good experience forming them as I know in past they were difficult.

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Companies like Strolz offer foam boots and Nordica and Head offer foam linears so there must be people using them. But who are they and how pleased are they?

 

I just got my Strolz boots foamed this year, since my old liners were packed out.  (I'd bought them with regular liners, which you can do here in the US.)

 

The fit is significantly tighter.  *Too* tight on one side of one foot, in fact; I need to take them in for an adjustment.  Only really bothers me towards the end of the day, or if I have to walk around in the boots a lot.  It was bothering me more at high altitude in Europe, and I haven't gotten back out to the shop since I got back.

 

The Intuition liners seem to be the hot thing these days.  Haven't tried them, but I'd guess they give you most of the fit advantage at a fraction of the price.  If I didn't already have the Strolz setup I might have gone that route myself, or at least tried it for a season before springing for the custom foam.

post #6 of 13

Surefoot has a new foam liner they started using this year which I like a lot. I took the plunge this season and am happy.

 

Though definitely $$$$$$

post #7 of 13

Intuition makes well regarded after market Liners, just got mine and so far I lovem - $180 and I believe you can get a better deal thru Promotive if a member here.

post #8 of 13

+1 for Intuition.  I tried nearly everything with not much success until I got these.  They are fabulous.  They hold you in without pressure points and are toasty warm.  I used to constantly work on eliminating heel lift and now I don't ever even think about it.

post #9 of 13

Conform'able (Sidas) also does foam liners. 

post #10 of 13
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Thanks for the imput boyz and gils. I did some research today and was pointed in the direction of Head. Seems they are more race orientated. Anybody know about this?

post #11 of 13

I haven't heard of any from head but if you gain any more info I would love to hear about and your experience with it, since I'm really looking at this route for next year.

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I haven't heard of any from head but if you gain any more info I would love to hear about and your experience with it, since I'm really looking at this route for next year.



The Head ones are (or were) an option on the highest end racing boots.   Most likely on the Raptor 150 RD.  These boots are hard to come by and are available in limited supply usually only to teams and race organizations.   Some do trickle down and become available to the general public, same with the RD skis.   Though Head has been pushing hard to become more available to everyone so this might be different since last season.  As you might expect they are very expensive.

post #13 of 13

I have read some good things on a couple of other forums on the Nordica foam kit.

 

I might be tempted to try another liner eventually because the stock ones in my boots are a little short-lasted even in the half size.

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