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Has anyone read the book/dvd "Go Snowboard" by Neil McNab.  I read it and some of it made a lot of sense.  I tried the pressure point system (ABCD) listed in the book and it works great for greens.  When I tried it in the blue, I have a hard time bringing my board around from heel edge to toe edge (regular stance).  The front of the board would start the turn when I applied pressure to the left (front) little toes while at the same time keeping pressure on the right (back) heel (like the book said to do).  As the board turn, I would move the pressure from the back heel to the back toe (now pressure is on both toe sides) but the board would slide down the hill at a 45 degree angle instead of turning fully.  I would then panic and throw my back leg into the turn to bring the board completely around.  I know that this is wrong but can someone help me.  If I wait for the toe edge to engage, I seem to be picking up too much speed.  I would panic even further and try to "bail out". Thanks is advance.



post #2 of 6

Haven't read the book.


You're not getting the board high enough on edge with enough weight on the front foot.


If you're making these turns with your front leg longer than your back leg, you need to ride with your hips moved closer to the front of the board. If you peek down to check where your front knee is in relation to your toes, you're probably going to see the knee behind the toes. In general we want to ride with the knees over the toes on average, but I want you to try moving the knee in front of the toes as you try to complete the toe side turn (you may have to bend your knees more in order to do this). This will overweight the nose of the board, but it will help you get around better. You can back off the move later once you get comfortable.


To get higher edge angles on toe side turns, you need to arch your back. Try this exercise at home. Stand up on a flat surface with your legs straight. Raise your arms so that they are straight and pointing to straight up (elbows above the ears). Now turn your palms to face the sky. This should make your back arch slightly. Hold that position and then bend your knees. You may feel your heels come off the ground naturally. If not, it's ok. Try raising and lowering your heels off the floor from this position. These movements are how you can create and control edge angles on a toe side turn.

post #3 of 6
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Thanks Rusty,


I have not been in these forums in a while.  I have been skiing in the past but in the last two years (this being the second year), I have been trying snowboarding because a friend started on snowboarding and he wanted me to join him (don't tell my epicski guys that since I went to an epic sky camp in Snowmass a few years back).  Are there any good videos around that will demonstrate the techniques that you have just described?  Are there other dry land exercises/workouts that I can do to get ready?  I just came back from WP and had a blast except for the last day in which I got caught in some big moguls.  I turned wrong and hit my lips on the top of a deep mogul and my board hit the bottom.  Unfortunately that caused my left ankle to over flexed forward resulting in a sprain :(.  I believed that I was in an area that was way over my head.  I would like to continue to improve, especially with the turns and eventually learn to carve dynamically.  Another question that I have is that when you are cruising straight ahead, should your board be flat or should it be slightly on the toe or heel side.  When I am cruising with my board flat to the surface, it seems that occasionally I would hit an area that causes my board to turn (unevenness in the snow) and at a fast pace, I could really catch an edge and fall hard because I was unprepared.  Thanks.


post #4 of 6

I don't have a lot of dryland practice drills for riding like the toe turn arch your back drill. I can recommend a plain balance board (a square with a thin board on the bottom) as a great exercise device for (re)building ankle strength for riding edge changes. AASI has some video clips. The AASI focus on riding DVD was made for instructors, but it should help to answer a lot of your questions.


When I'm cruising over the flats/ cat tracks, I like to maintain a very small edge angle to reduce drag. If I am riding a flat board down the fall line, I will load weight on the front foot to increase stability.

post #5 of 6
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Thanks for the reply, The AASI site was very good. I was not able to access the dvd area so I can order the dvd to look at.  I will definitely keep the tips in mind on my next trip.  I really need to improve on my flexion.


post #6 of 6

The main drill I use for flexion development is to ride holding both knees, then rise up to touch both hands to the shoulders to start a turn (i.e. edge change), then quickly go back to holding your knees. When you get the timing down right (rise to start the turn, sink to finish), in between rising to briefly touch the tops of the shoulders, ride touching the top of the boots (1/2 way between knee and foot) instead of hands on the knees. The key to this step is to bend the knees, not to just bend at the waist to reach the boot tops. For higher level riding, the next step is to ride touching the toes. Finally, for instructors, I make them ride touching the snowboard (grabbing the edge on heel sides). If a 50+ fat old geezer can do it,....


This drill is NOT good for people doing toe side turns without back arch or for people who ride in the back seat (front leg straight). Those problems need to get resolved before you do this drill.

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