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Scott P4 Alpine Ski

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Pros: Stable, Floaty, Turnable, Crud Buster, Forgiving Absorption

Cons: Flutter at HIGH high Speeds, not a Bump Ski , not for ice carving

The Scott P4 is a High performing all mountain ski that forgives variable terrain and skier errors.  Hitting a wide open groomer on a bluebird day at high speeds effortlessly smiling into every simply executed turn. The soft tip and slightly early rise sucks in the terrain and sends it right to that titanium underfoot, initiating a securely executed foot placement and transition into the next turn. That same tip to foot transition cushions and secures crud plowing and powder pillow landings. It's a gas being able to fly down spring condition trails floating the water slush and leaving a 12 foot rooster tail behind with everyone else on the slopes.  I have to say the SCOTT P4 has been the most all around 

fun ski I've ever owned or ridden in most conditions.  I've had few finer days than the  2011-2012 variable condition season than I had riding my P4's.  By the way I like the rough top sheet that resists scratches and preserves the retro graphics.  I stand corrected to regarding the early rise,, upon closer inspection, it flattens out right at the beginning of the tips,,and essentially has some camber throughout.  That reinforces my opinion on just how soft that tip really is, it will bound out of the snow effortlessly.  

 

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Pros: stiff, eats crud and cut pow for b fast

Cons: heavy, too stiff?

i picked these up for a song this year.  although a nice ski, they are traditional in nature, and quite stiff.  if you've gotten used to playful soft skis and like them, these aren't the skis for you.

my biggest complaint is that Scott bills this ski as having an early rise tip and tail.  this is simply not true.  there is no rocker or early rise in either the tip or tail.  buy them if you want a traditional twinned ski.

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Pros: stiff, kills crud, shreds pow

Cons: too stiff for some?

I picked these up for a stupidly cheap price, and I've been happy with them, but not blown away.  They are very stiff, hold an edge well on hardpack, destroy crud and surf pow.  That said, I thought I was getting a ski with some early rise, and other "new school" charateristics.  These traits are not there, as this ski remains a traditional old school ripper (though it is twinned).  The sheets of titanal make the ski perform well, but the weight adds up, in case you're thinking of using them for a lot of touring.  Good ski overall, and there are some out there on sale cheap!

Posted

Pros: Versitile & forgiving.

Bought the 191's as a slack country ski and mounted with with Marker Baron's for the odd day of touring. I'm 6'3" and 225 and took them up for a maiden voyage in about 4" of SW BC fresh and giggled the whole time as they soaked up all the hard stuff below and were manouverable enough to quickly adjust turns to find the right line or hit. I have yet to go back to my "go-to" skis.

 

I've been skiing it in everything but deep fresh snow as my timing just hasn't been able to line up with a good day yet. I have the bindings mounted dead center and when I found the right stance over the skis, they railed on firm snow. The soak up moderate bumps with ease and have saved my lazy butt on a number of occasions. Laying down nice arcs through choppy terrain on these skis is confidence inspiring to say the least. They spring out of the apex of the turn beautifully.

 

I've skinned them with Black Diamonds and although a bit clunky side (in part due to the Baron's) they are good enough for the short tours I do.

 

Seriously, considering the dimensions of these skis, I'm still astounded as to how versatile they are. If you find a pair on the cheap; don't hesitate.

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Pros: Stable, fast, good edge control, durable, powder hounds

Cons: Not the best on hard piste but who cares!

I have the 2007 model and love them.  Odd thing is that two years ago I picked up a pair of Coomba's w/Griffons thinking I would like them better than the P4.  Last year I was going to sell the P4s and use Coombas on powder and my Atomic Metron B5s on groomer/hardpack days.  But this year I started out on the Coomba's and something wasn't quite right and went back to the P4s and am very, very glad I kept them.  This year I've been in deep powder several times; in the trees whenever I can and even on groomers covered by 2-3" of fresh powder and the P4 is the best ski of all.  The edge is there.  Super quick turns on steeps.  Last weekend on a light powder day when one would think carving would be the ticket, I took the Atomics back to the locker and got the P4s.  In deep snow...get in a little trouble...just push the tail down a hair and you're in total control again.  Now I've never skiied on Gotamas but so I can't honestly say anything in that regard but I'm very glad I have the P4s and would buy them again in a hearbeat.  I would put one on the wider bindings (baron, griffon or the like) next time though.

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Pros: Edge hold, quality build, powder, crud, stability, competent and versatile

Cons: 23m turn radius is short for my (unusual) tastes

Edge hold is fantastic for such a wide ski -- lay them on edge and let them go. Very nice in pow, good in cut-up crud as well.

I'd say that, with the large twin, the 191s ski shorter than, say, my 186 Big Stix 84s.

And the bases really are as bulletproof as the rep suggests.

Comparing them to, say, the Moment Comi, I liked the P4s better ski in basically every way -- almost as much float (despite being an inch narrower), and much more stable in crud (perhaps due to the length). And the P4s kick the crap out of the Icelantic Shaman -- the Shamans are turny and get kicked around, while the P4s are grippy and stable.

They really are incredibly competent, versatile, and easy to ski -- not a ski you have to think too much about, just enjoy. I liked them a lot, but didn't quite fall in love with them. But that's probably a personal style thing that has to do with the twin and the sidecut -- I think I just really prefer skis with radii in the high 20s (190 Moment Ruby) or 30s (Bros) to even the low 20s (P4, Moment Comi).

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Pros: float is terrific, stable at high speeds, stomps landings, rips a soft groomer

Cons: prone to shorter-radius turns, fairly heavy ski

Bought these after a demo day, evidently an older gentleman had skied them once (181) and returned them, too much ski for him (this is the standard fat ski "high end" demo ski at Sun Valley, ID). Got them mounted for $500, basically brand new.

 

I was sold after skiing one day of these with 9 inches of new snow. Fortunately I bought them and it snowed another 8 inches that night so I was able to ski them all week. My other fat ski is a Volkl Gotama and while I love both of them I honestly might pick this one over the Goat. Why? It's a bit wider underfoot and is a bit more stable in the crud once the pow is gone.

 

It's not as light as the Goat (a bit less nimble) but just hammers crud and new snow. I skied these on Christmas day this year in Sun Valley with about 16 inches of new snow and turning them is pretty much effortless. One small gripe is that they turn faster than the Goat, they don't mind the GS turn in the pow but seem to prefer the shorter-radius. With the exception of groomers....they are at their best in a high-speed GS turn, I was shocked at how you can lay these things down. Obviously not perfect on hard-pack but that's probably not why you'd buy them. I skied them for 6 consecutive days as the new snow faded every day and they still were a blast 6 days after a storm.

 

Also found them slightly better than the goat for kickers/small hucks. The tail is a bit snappier and they launch you and absorb landings well. 

 

This is a top ski for those that are fortunate to ski pow regularly. Wouldn't be my everyday all mountain but it sure should be a ski you consider for your bigger boards. 

 

BTW, I am 5 10, 160 and the 181 is the perfect length for me.  

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Pros: Excellent performance in the powder and on soft snow

Cons: Do not do well if you get in the backseat. The trucker mudflap girl graphics on tails and bases.

I have a new pair of Scott P4s in 181, mounted with Jesters.  I just finished a week of skiing them in Utah at Powder Mountain and Snowbasin.  Powder all week.  They were fantastic in the soft snow and amazingly good edge hold on the packed snow.  You need to stay on top of them, especially on the groomed, as they do not like you to be in the back seat.  This is the first time I have been on a ski this wide and it took a few runs to get the feel of them.  However, they performed great in the deep snow that we had all week.  I let my brother use them for a few runs and almost had to fight him to get them back.  His comment was "that's cheating".  I am 6', 185lbs, level 7/8, 49 years old.

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Pros: Great snow performance

Cons: Not a good carver at speed on hard pack

It's a medium soft fat ski that does great in snow, is fairly maneuverable and twin tip.  Not a great hard pack carver but that's not what it's for.  Bases held up well including a lot of tree skiing recently

Posted

Pros: Really easy to use, great all arround ski for soft snow, super durable

Cons: Not good on real hard pack.

This is one of the best every day use skis for soft snow. I have used it as my daily driver the last 2 years and love the ski.  It has a really versatile and surprisingly good in a variety of terrain. A really fun ski and so easy to ski that is sneaks up on you with the performance.

 

The ski has metal laminate constuction with a medium / stiff forebody and a soft tail. This gives it some muscle if you stand on it, but its forgiving if you get in the back seat. Very good crud ski , great in soft snow, good float in pow. Its soft enough to make a variety of turn shapes and the soft tails even allow some slarving. 21 m radius is good for carving on groomers and edge grip is surprisingly good considering the width. Even work able in bumps and park.

 

Durability: bases are made of kryptonite. I have run over many rocks on these and the skis hardly look worn. No core shots.

 

I just wish they were lighter and I would mount up a pair for touring.

Scott P4 Alpine Ski
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Description:

The whole mountain becomes your terrain park when you ride the Scott P4 Alpine Ski. Eclipsed this year only by the massive Stunt, the P4 is the big gun of Scott's backcountry freestyle line, with twin Titanal sheets sandwiching a full wood core. The stiff titanium-aluminum alloy puts serious gnar-charging beef underfoot, but despite its big-mountain capabilities the P4 never feels big or sluggish. Thanks to a nimble sidecut, twin tail, and Scott's early-rising Pro Tip profile, you can take this ski from a straightline chute into tight trees without worry, then rip rock-solid arcs back to the lift on powerful vertical sidewalls. Quick when you need it to be, but battleship stable at speed, the P4 floats through powder, motors through choppy crud, and stomps out big air like a seasoned pro.

Details:
DetailValue
Lengths171cm, 181cm, 191cm
Dimensions[171cm] 132 / 106 / 126mm; [181cm] 134 / 108 / 128mm; [191cm] 137 / 108 / 131mm
Turn Radius[171cm] 19m; [181cm] 21m; [191cm] 23m
ConstructionVertical sidewall, Titanal sandwich
Core MaterialHardwood
TailTwin tip
Binding SystemNo
Binding IncludedNo
Recommended UseBackcountry freestyle, big mountain freeride, advanced to expert
Manufacturer Warranty1 Year
BaseRace finish
Binding Type
Model Year
Recommended Binding
Recommended Level
Recommended use
Models:
Model Name/TypeMPNEAN/UPC
Size: 171cm210504-9992240
Size: 191cm210504-9992244
Size: 181cm210504-9992242
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