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2011 Salomon Shogun Ski


Pros: all around great ski, versatile, playful, fun

Cons: playfulness may sacrifice stability in some conditions.

me, 6ft, 165, ski at slower to moderate speeds, at squaw valley, ski groomers only to get to the lift after skiing natural snow, ski lots of squaw type bumps (large, rounded, not short, choppy), steeps, crud, whatever nature serves up w/ an order of wind, sun and precip...

level 8/9 skier (psia scale),


terrain, chute 75 squaw, a couple ice turns up top, wonderful wind deposited fluff in the middle, bigger bumps in the bottom, and  some leftover avalanche debris chunks in the center, rain layer ice on the flanks.


ski, 182, 131-101-118 or so, 3.5cm of slight rocker tip



I haven't really been a salomon fan for quite awhile. liked the xscream, then didn't ski a salomon that worked well for me until 2 weeks ago, i took 2 runs on a  175 gun from a few years ago, (mounted 2cm back). I think i went away from salomon mainly because they were mounted too far forward since they became the company of spinsters.


I was skiing my watea 94, w/ EricD and the Solly Rep, Chris, and swithced out to the new shogun w/ the rep for a couple runs,

i wanted to buy it. i am tough on different skis and often take an adjustment period,

but this one felt good after a few turns and only got better.


turn shape was versatile, would ride the arc, or let you shape the turn into longer or shorter skids. was quite happy being pushed to a hard edgeset. had the light lively feel of the watea, but a bit more damp and nice flex in the forebody. held well on the icy flanks, and was quicker the most 101 skis I've skied.


i didn't notice the rocker tip, and it didn't flutter going fast on the way back to the lift on fast groomer access trails.


All in all, a new turn for salomon and I'd like to own one. but not avail until next fall... bummer.





second follow up I posted from thread about this ski
i have to admit, beyond, I didn't think about materials too much, except that it isn't a foam/composite core salomon that we've learned to hate. it has a wood feel, although i don't know what bamboo should feel like. first impression was that is was solid for the feeling of lightness, like the watea. similiar construction idea, i hear, take a good wood core, add stringers (carbon i beam in fisher, basalt rock like but w/ some sort of resiliancy i hope) and give it that just right flex, an voila, a ski for real skiers, not guys dropping 50 feet and running it out at 50 plus all the time...


compared to watea, more damp, the way i have my wateas tuned at the moment, more playful and accepting of cheating turn shape.

I must admit, that as I skied this amazing windblown, winddeposit, windbuff day, w/ the squaw icons like Eric D, Sollie rep, Chris (who rips), Tom Day, and others (not to be a name dropper), the boys were flying. it was a day for covering ground quickly, like 4 turns total on the face of headwall since it was just freakin' smooth from the wind love, anyway. with my propensity not ski that fast, i was working to keep up and I was wishing my wateas were a big longer and a bit straighter that day, and the sollies were a bit longer and a bit straigher, so they fit the bill i had conjured up in my mind...

but i digress,


the rocker was minimal, to the point that I don't even know if I felt it, except for the feeling that the radius seems steeper then the dems led me to believe, so slightly shorter use of those dems...?


what also surprised me was how playful it was for a 101 waisted ski, that had a very racy tune on it (so said the rep, and so I felt on the really hard snow, and railing fast carves back to the lift. so many of these skis that do what we need them to do in tougher conditions, are just not playful, but a bit too tuetonic in their nature (i admit, i'm not sure what that means, but i'm thinking stauch non flexible germanic stock :) )

i like a little french flair, i guess...




PS, I skied this ski again at the demo days in the spring, w/ hard snow and spring softening. once again, one of my favorites. Dead? I thought it was quite lively and quick.


Pros: Stable at speed, playfull even on hard surfaces, all around great!

Cons: Of course not so great on ice!

Purchased this november 2010. I am manager at J-H Lamontagne Sprorts in Lévis, Québec Canada. Lots of hard pack around exept at the Massif (Charlevoix) and Mont-Grand Fonds (Charlevoix). I kind of kwew what to expect from Salomon's description and what they had in mind for that ski. I'am very pleased and surprised with the skis. I expected sluggished feelings on hard pack and kind of a truck driving experience. But thank you Salomon i d'ont have to carry two pairs of skis for for the day. Excellent in powder, above average on hard pack for that type of ski, playfull in the park (i have two kids 8 and 12). So anyone intersted in a Peak73 and Black Jack 80 for sale? I have no use for them any more.... !




Pros: Stable in GS Turns and Quick turning in tight zones - ultra versatile - Good in Powder and hardpack.

Cons: The 182 wouldn't be my choice for huge AK faces I think the 191 or the Czars

Salomon Shogun - 182 Makes the cut in the Travel Bag - 

Who wants to hear from a guy who is biased and who gets skis from the company he is writing about.  Fair question.   My deal is I have been testing skis for over twenty years and I loved this ski the very first time I got on them last year.   They are a great ski for everything.  They are not the best powder ski - but they out-ski the best powder ski in hard pack.  They are not the best hard pack ski - but they out ski the best hard-pack ski in powder.  What they are is a great all around ski.   They ski powder with ease and they can carve a turn on hardpack.      They can also butter turns when mounted forward.
I took these with me to Chile and Argentina this last August and they ended up being my choice everyday.  I was straightlining and buttering little chutes at Las Lenas  (with Kye Peterson).  We skied Flutes and flakes above Portillio (skiing with Callum Pettit and Zach Giffen - both ridiculously good skiers) and these skis ripped. 
If you get a chance, you have to take them for a spin.  If you come to JH, hit me with an email and I will try to let you ride a pair of mine.  

   If I had to chose one ski to take with me - this would be the one. 


Pros: crud, powder, steeps, nimble, relatively light for its size, stiff without weight

Cons: poor quality

this is the second year in a row i bought these skis and now second year in a row that they started to delaminate on me. I bought the 10/11 ski for the 2011/2012 season and used them for backcountry touring, no resort skiing whatsover. They are an excellent ski for variable terrain from wind blown crust, to powder, to spring corn and even managed on ice. they are easy to throw around once you get used to them and they ride through almost anything. In otherwords, I really like the skiing characteristics of these skis and salomon skis in general.

however, after about 10 uses they began to delaminate under the binding, I did go over some rocks but hey, Salomon claims these have reinforced edges precisely for such events. Luckily I got a refund from the local shop but because I already had the skins cut for these I bought the same ones except the 11/12 model. Now after about the 30th day on these without going over any rocks or anything, one of the skis is starting to delaminate under the binding again. pretty much the cap is just rolling off and i can see into the core of the ski.

It may be just my luck that I somehow struck two lemons right after another or its a general problem with this ski. One thing is sure, I am not ever buying these skis again even though I really like how they handle. I already opted for the K2 Hardside as I found a killer deal, now I am just hoping Salomon or the store I bought these from provides me with some sort of warranty or replacement.

In terms of value, they get some points, because Salomon's always go for half price near the end of the season so you cant argue with that. Overall, I give them one star because of their good skiing characteristics.


Pros: Stable at speed, Kills crud, stable in landings

Cons: heavy

This is about as close as you can get to a one ski quiver.  It wants to go fast, turn big and get airborn.  I ski the 191 and unlike other reviewers I would say this ski is more "like" the K2 fujas or the atomic access.  I say like because of dimensions and rocker type.  The similarities end right there though.  This ski is relatively stiff, yet very lively, and very damp when busting through crud or landing after a 20 footer.  The only drawback of the stiffness is when you are in snow thats over 8 inches deep.  Even though it has a fair amount of rocker in the tip it doesn't translate to superior flotation.  If you like to ski fast and be airborn, this is your everyday ski.


Pros: powder, crud, groomers

Cons: just OK in bumps


6' 0"

175 lbs

level 9

home mountain Crystal Mt, WA

Shogun 182 cm


This is a fantastic ski, especially if you love side-country skiing.  I spend most of my time at the resorts looking for powder, which means that I spend a lot of my day skiing cut-up powder and crud.  I have two seasons on my S7s and love them, but find them to be a little tiring in the crud and bumps.  The S7s bounce around a bit on crud and they are not very quick edge-to-edge, so I end up just skiing over most of the bumps, which tires me out.  The Shoguns are 90% as good as the S7s in powder, but they are far better in cruddy, cut-up snow and bumps.  There is a little reverse camber in the tip, but most of the ski has pretty substantial traditional camber.  There is a nice amount of traditional sidecut, not too "turny" but it holds a nice carve on ice if it's tuned correctly.  Also, the ski is a bit stiffer than some other similar skis, like the K2 Sidestash.  I think this helps it slice through the crud better without sacrificing much in the powder.  It's also great at speed.  It will make long turns and slice through cut-up piles of snow without bouncing you around.


The Shoguns are a great choice if you love powder but also want good performance in crud, tracked powder, and groomers.


Pros: Versatility, soft snow performance, liveliness, carving hardpack

Cons: Graphics

I've been hunting for a versatile soft snow ski for a while, and discovered the Shoguns almost by accident. They weren't on my shortlist of skis to test, but a Salomon tech convinced me to try a pair of Geishas (same ski, different topsheet) - he even waived the rental charge because he was so convinced I would love them.

Well, the guy knew his stuff. The first day I took the Geishas out was a 70cm powder day; I ended up renting them one more time to try on hardpack before buying the Shoguns.

I couldn't have been more impressed with this ski. In powder, the rockered tip came into its own; on groomers, it was barely noticeable and had no impact on the overall stability of the ski. The combination of a bamboo core and basalt layer made for a really lively, playful ski that was also impressively stable. It doesn't have much of a sidecut but get a bit of speed going and tip it on edge and it will happily carve up the hardpack. On churned soft snow and crud the rockered tip and 96mm waist combined for great flotation that just cruised over everything. I also really liked the bases - I'm not sure if it was the p-tex or the wax, but they were super smooth and slick.

I'm pretty small and light (5'4" and 120lb) and have some long-standing knee problems, and one of the issues I had when I was hunting for a powder/soft snow ski was that a lot of them start at 180+. I tend to find these lengths are a bit too much for someone my size, particularly given the knee issues. I really appreciated that the Shogun was available in a 164. 

My only issue with the skis are the graphics; I'm not a fan of the topsheets on either the Shogun or the Geisha. However, this is purely personal aesthetic preference, and I have to say the performance more than makes up for the the appearance. 

If you're looking for a one-ski quiver and you typically ski west coast conditions, the Shogun might just be your ski. It's definitely mine.


Pros: Looks good

Cons: Fairly dead ski

I'm a big fan of Bamboo cores and was super excited to see Salomon bring it into the line this year. I've skied the Liberty Helix a bunch and it is an awesome ski. I guess I expected the Salomon to ski like the Helix. Instead, it's a fairly dead ski. It's nice and stable, but not a lot of energy.
2011 Salomon Shogun Ski

Testers and pros rave about the Salomon Shogun Ski, which is understandable since riding it is about as lively as taking a Hoverboard down Denali. With this ski, Salomon balanced assertive freeski performance and an all-mountain stability you don't expect to find in a 101mm waist. So go ahead and hit the steepest, off-the-charts lines on the mountain. And when you get back down to the groomers at the bottom, your buddies still won't get ahead of you.

Lengths164cm, 173cm, 182cm, 191cm
Dimensions[182cm] 130 / 101 / 120mm
Turn Radius[182cm] 25.9m
ConstructionEdgy monocoque
Core MaterialFull wood core
TailSemi twin-tip tail
Binding SystemNo
Binding IncludedNo
Recommended UseFreeskiing, powder skiing, dabbling in crud & groomers
Manufacturer Warranty1 Year
BaseP-Tex 4000
Recommended BindingSalomon Z14 Ski Binding
Binding Type
Model Year
Recommended Level
Recommended use
Model Name/TypeMPNEAN/UPC
Color: Green/Brown/White, Size: 182cm102732-182801634588618
Color: Green/Brown/White, Size: 173cm102732-173
Color: Green/Brown/White, Size: 191cm102732-191801634588625
Color: Green/Brown/White, Size: 164cm102732-164
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