Pros: super versatile
Cons: super versatile
Pros: super versatile
Cons: super versatile
Pros: Good float in powder /crud, forgiving in bumps
Cons: Not a short turn carving ski and a little slower edge to edge than my eastern carvers but I didn't buy them to carve groomers
Pros: great edge grip; solid platform
Cons: not really a con, but they don't like going sideways....point em' straight down
Pros: Large sweet spot for carving everywhere
Cons: Encourages good form... no taking a break
I'm 6'0" 185 lbs, 51... after demoing around and seeking advice from best ski buddies, I bought 165s at the start of last season, skied them about 35 days and can't say enough good things about them. I'm all ski mostly New England, usually find me in powdery bumps, steeps, trees, once in a while on the groomers - usually when friends drag me there. Best day yet was 2 weeks ago after a foot of new snow at MRG - that made my short list of epic ski days.
Pros: Amazing balance between maneuverability & stability, float & edge-grip
Cons: A bit of early rise in the tip would improve float without giving up much edge-grip
I've been using the 165cm's (I'm 5'5" and 130lbs) as my hard/mixed condition ski's this year - they replaced my Watea 84's which were light n' lively but very unstable. I demo'd them in some early season mixed conditions vs. the Icelantic Pilgrims, K2 Aftershock, Rossi S86, Solly Lord...and they blew these and my W84's away (and seemed superior in all ways to my memory of the 8000's I demo'd a couple of years ago).
So far they have not disappointed - I've had them in bumps and trees, in fairly hard (for CO) conditions and up to about a foot of fairly light pow over a firm base (though for mankier/deeper snow I'm definitely on my wider rockered skis since the tips on these babies do like to carve). They are magically both easy to use and powerful, lively and highly maneuverable yet very stable...though in longer lengths who knows (based on some of the other reviews below). Highly recommended as a mixed condition ski for an advanced or lighter expert skier (heavier experts seem to be going wider these days)!
Pros: quick turn initiation, floats great, stable, crud blaster, loved the groomers
Cons: super icy not the greatest
I picked these up used which seemed brand new when they arrived. I used the skis out at Snowbird and Alta during an incredibly strange week of rain, to ice/hardpack, to 18 inches of pow, to loose powder and grooms. The ski was so exceptional in all of the conditions aside from the crazy ice developed after the rainstorm. I am an East Coast skier who had not seen this type of powder in years so I was hoping these skis would make it a great day and it certainly did....I have had trouble with powder once before in 3 ft of snow at Killington when using a 73 inch waist ski. These skis just simply made it so easy. I floated a full day at Alta on this ski which no quad burn and simply had a huge smile. The last day we were banging thru the trees in gad valley and these also were so nimble and easy to manage. Cant say enough good things about this ski. Taking them to Breckenridge next week so truly excited about the proposition!
Cons: same thing
Skied on a pair of Sultans I rented at Snowbird this past spring. I've owned & skied on the older Legend 8000 & 8800 for several years & the Sultans just aren't the same. They seem stiffer & definetly not as stable. They also had a more tinny sound & feel, not as solid & quiet as the older model Legends. My 8000's are 178 & 8800's 182, the Sultans I rented were 178. The older model Legends are a much better ski in my opinion. I'm 6' & 185lbs. I hope I can find an adequate replacement for my older skis when I need to.
Pros: Versatile, good narrow ski in western quiver.
Cons: Not much.
I am 5'10" and 200+lbs and ski in UT. I got the 178 which is probably as short as I would want to go. I got this size because I was looking for versatile narrower ski for a little bit of everything to round out my quiver. So far I am very pleased with it. The ski has a firm flex throughout, with the exception of the tip is noticeably a bit softer than the rest. It also has a bit of early rise in the tips. This makes them a bit slow to engage on groomed runs compared to other similar midfats.
Another thing to not is that my skis came with a weird tune from the factory. I think alot of the complaints on this ski are probably related to the tune. Once I got the base to 1 and side to 3 degrees the performance really improved.
The ski gives good snow feel with out being twitchy and has some snap in the trails and solid grip for laying trenches on the groomed runs. But its not going to be confused with a race ski on true hard pack. Its manoeuvrable enough to take into the trees with out hesitation and rides well in soft stuff. But its more deliberate and edgy than a fatty. The Sultan has a good stable feeling at speed and Crud doesn't seem to bother it much, but its not a crud slaying battle ship.
The construction seems well built so far, but its hardly been abused at all. Just a solid all rounder for a mix of front side and off piste.
Pros: responsive, held edge, sneered at bumps
Cons: My quads ache
Pros: Quick to turn, great edge grip.
Cons: Could not stay centered in powder with these!
|Feature||Dimensions: 122-88-110(Turn Radius: 21m @ 178cm)|
|Product Type Name||SPORTING_GOODS|
|Title||Dynastar Legend Sultan 85 NEW 09/10 Model, 165cm|