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2009 Rossignol Phantom SC 80 Alpine Ski w/ Axial2 120 Binding

Posted

Pros: Quick turning, good floatation,

 I won these skis, not sure that I would have bought them owing to Rossi's brand management over the past few years.  Have skied on them in soft snow and powder this winter in the East and will be taking them to Lake Tahoe this week.  Haven't had them on hard snow as I haven't  experienced it this winter in the East (at least the days that I have been out).  However, they have been a lot of fun to ski in powder, trees, and bumps.

 

All in all, I think Rossi came up with a winner

 

These skis were phenomenal in Lake Tahoe during the February storms of a few weeks back.  Great floatation in the powder, quick turns in the trees, and surprisingly nimble in the moguls for something that was 80 mm under foot.  All in all quite a fine ski.

Posted

Pros: Quick turning, 50/50 All Conditions, Easy to Ski

I am 5'10" - 185lbs and have been skiing all of my life since I was 4yrs old.  Expert level

 

I am a bump skier on groomers and a back country skier for the past 20 years in Colorado.  I purchased these skis for their short turn radius and 50/50 conditions rating and was not let down in the slightest.  I have Fritschi Diamir Freeride Plus Bindings mounted on them and the SC80's have performed excellent in every way under all conditions from hard packed bumps to 20" fresh powder!

 

This is a grossly under rated ski at a bargain price.

 

It's to bad they discontinued this ski for a rocker model S80 but S80 still has even a tighter turn radius.

Posted

Pros: Loves corduroy, great arcing, good in moguls, fast with no chatter, excellent transition in fast turns

Cons: limited float in deep pow

I have about 20 days on the Rossi Phantom SC 80 185cm.  I ski Breckenridge and Vail mostly.

6'3"
235 lbs
level 7/8

This is a very fun ski that does well in most conditions.  I would definitely move into something wider for the soft powder days.  But for skied out powder and corduroy these are fast skis.  Relatively quick turning in the trees, good in bumps.  I think they do best in large arcing turns.  The more you rail the edges, the harder they turn and really handle beautifully at high speeds.  I have had the tails wash out a few times do really aggressive hockey stops, but not a big deal really.

I had high hopes for these on a 14 inch dump day, but was disappointed.  I felt that I did more plowing than floating and felt a bit uncomfortable trying to stay in a true forward ski stance.  I nearly took a couple headers trying to stay in the full forward normal skiing position.  This was to be somewhat expected with only 80mm underfoot.  Hiked the bowls at Breck with these and they did very well in the steeps.  Great jump turn ski.  Great landings off of some cornices.

Great all mountain ski, but for the big dump days, I am buying a pair of fat boards. 

Posted

Pros: Carves well, busts crud, decent in moguls, light, likes to go fast

Cons: Lots of tip dive, topsheet scratches easily

About me
Weight: 140 lbs
Height: 5'9"
Ability: (now) Level 7/8

Skis/Bindings Reviewed: Rossignol Phantom SC 80s, 165cm w/ Rossignol Axium 110 Bindings


I'd only skied 10 days in my life when I bought the Phantoms at the beginning of my ski season here in Colorado. Standing in the store with a pair of K2 Apache Recons leaning against the check-out counter, my heart changed at the last minute (and it shames me to say say this) for no reason other than that I liked the Rossi topsheet graphics more. The salesman said they were essentially the same ski and at that point, I couldn't ski well enough to tell the difference.

In the fifty-plus days I've skied on them since then, I can say that I am... content with their performance.

Hardpack: Until recently, the I-70 resorts I frequent have given little chance to spend time on anything other than hardpack. And these skis rip corduroy. They're quick edge to edge and won't let go on all but the steepest, crustiest slopes. Skiing on Volkl Mantras recently --which perform enormously better as all-mountain sticks in CO-- I'd say that the Phantoms exhibit greater pop and power from turn to turn on groomers and they change radius more easily as well. At high speeds, they won't accept anything from the backseat and unfortunately even at my light weight, the 165s can get a little chattery.

Crud: Last year Rossi optimistically sold the Phantoms as a 60/40 off/on-piste ski. This year, the promo material for the cosmetically updated version gives them at a 50/50 ratio that still seems to ignore the fact that skiers spend time out west. Just the same, if the crud or chowder has a bottom, the Phantoms break it with confidence. I've never worried about control on the remains of a Vail powder day -- no tip deflection as long as you stay on top of things. Still, these skis require attention since you're breaking through the crud not playing around on top of it.  

Moguls/Trees: Good through moguls, although the light weight probably rewards bad form on my part. I tend to "ride the walls" and employ muscle where finesse would serve better. If I could ski trees with more speed, I'd say some relevant to the performance there. So far I've found them decent enough through The Outback at Keystone.

Powder: The Phantoms build strong quads. Maybe length plays a part, but I simply cannot stand on these skis in anything more that shin-deep and expect the tips to stay up. Initially, I faulted my technique, but after skiing the fatter Mantras, I realized that with the right boards, I could put a whole lot more weight forward with fearing a double ejection. That's not to say it's impossible to ski real snow on the Phantoms, just that it takes a whole lot more work.

Overall: East-coasters looking for a one ski quiver might find it in the Phantoms, but out West a bit more under foot will make the powder days that much more enjoyable. Buy a pair of Mantras.

Posted

Pros: Fun in soft snow and crud

Cons: Not really a good match for harder snow conditions

Demo'd these in Smugglers Notch, Vermont.  Very varied conditions on the day I demo'd ... some eastern powder stashes after 6-10 inches, skied up crud piles, windblown hardpack.  I also demo'd the Rossi Classic CX 80 and the Head iM 78 the same day on the same trails.  The Phantom was fun in the softer snow, powder or crud.  It was nowhere near as versatile for the hardpack conditions, however.  I found both the Classic CX 80 and the Head iM 78 to be much more versatile in the varying conditions all over the mountains that day.  If you are looking for a soft snow ski, the Phantom would be fun.  If you are looking for a multi-condition and versatile all-mountain ski, I think there are much better choices.

Posted

Pros: Doesn't flinch at anything

Cons: None yet

I am 6-0 Foot, 195 lbs, East Coast, have been skiing the Rossi 9s Oversize in the 165 length for many years.  I'm heading to Utah in April, wanted more flotation, more forgiveness?  After much discussion with the local shop, I decided to buy these instead of the Z10's which were the next logical progression for me.  All I can say is the ski gods were looking down on me that day!  WOW!, these skis are awesome, I got the 175's which give you a 15.1m turn compared to the 13m turn on the 9s, not much diff there.  I lost the skitterish feel I had with the 9s and can actually ski these faster with more confidence.  Biggest thing I noted was gaining an edge under my boot (80 waist compared with 67 on the 9s).  This allows me to rip on the hard pack without that "electric shock" that you get when you hit an ice patch (you East coasters know what I mean).  Anyway, I've got a lot of catching up to do, been stuck in the past too long!

2009 Rossignol Phantom SC 80 Alpine Ski w/ Axial2 120 Binding
Description:

The Rossignol Phantom SC 80 alpine ski paired with the Axial2 120 binding makes a perfect rig for those looking to make turns anywhere, anytime, in any conditions. The Phantom SC 80 s burly wood core, vertical sidewalls and sandwich construction with two layers of titanium laminate all add up to a ski that ll tear up the steep n deep, crud, bumps and groomers and beg for more. A wide waist floats in deep snow and a hearty side cut lets you rail turns on the corduroy. The Phantom SC 80 s Shark Nose helps maintain stability when your charging the gnar and busts through crud like a champ. The Axial2 120 bindings keep you locked and loaded with 100mm wide brakes and 3.5 12 din range.

Details:
DetailValue
Lengths155cm, 165m, 170cm, 175cm, 180cm, 185cm
Dimensions122 / 80 / 109mm
Turn Radius[175cm] 15.1m
ConstructionSandwich w/ two titanium laminates and Rossitop topsheet
Core MaterialWood
TailFlat
Binding SystemNo
Binding IncludedYes
Recommended UseAll-mountain, powder
Manufacturer Warranty1 Year
Recommended BindingYes, Rossignol Axial2 120 Binding
Additional Info
Binding Type
Model Year
Recommended Level
Recommended use
Models:
Model Name/TypeMPNEAN/UPC
Style: F9270, Size: 170cmF9270-170739215273847
Style: F9270, Size: 180cmF9270-180739215273854
Style: F9270, Size: 185cmF9270-1853109880211975
Style: F9270, Size: 185cmF9270-185739215230628
Style: F9270, Size: 155cmF9270-155739215230598
Style: F9270, Size: 165cmF9270-1653109880211937
Style: F9270, Size: 165cmF9270-165739215230604
Style: F9270, Size: 175cmF9270-1753109880211951
Style: F9270, Size: 175cmF9270-175739215230611
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