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2008 Dynastar Huge Trouble Ski

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Pros: Stability, stability, stability in chopped snow, fun, fun, fun

Cons: Can lack some float in very wet and heavy snow.

 Ski tested: Dynastart Huge Trouble, 185, 2009 model (identical to current 6thSense Huge). 115 mm under foot, little or no camber, 33m radius sidecut, stiff forebody, softer tail with almost a pintail shape.  Mounted with LookPX  bindings 2.5 cm behind the "Standard" line.  

Conditions: Squaw  Valley, bluebird powder day, Squaw reported 6-8 inches of new snow on top, but felt more like 4-6 inches everywhere, with pockets of deeper snow in the morning. 

Me: 39 y/o male, 6'/185 lb, expert skier. 

Last season my powder ski was a pair of Nordica Blowers, which I didn't quite agree with at first but learned to drive after a couple of days.  This season I switched them for the HTs, based partly on HTs good reputation here (davluri- thanks for the encouragement!), partly on being able to get a good deal.  The ski I was on was actually a personal pair of SierraJim's (thanks again!), but my ski is identical (except the color of bindings ) .  

Impressions: I knew that it had rained mid-mountain the day before, so I immediately headed to the upper mountain.  The first run in Shirley bowl (easy intermediate slope) convinced me right away it is a great ski, very easy initiation, very stable, and surprisingly quick.  I was lucky to hit the Granite Chief lift right when they opened it, so I got good first tracks there.  The ski had tons of float, tips came to the surface really well, and the HT made skiing powder very easy.  Later in the day it blasted through the chopped up snow (Squaw typically does not have a lot of powder after 11 am) with apparent ease.  Later in the day I hit the Rock Pile run off Granite, and the first half of the run down that face felt perfect: I was flying down at high speed, making clean linked turns through the cut-up snow.  Great skis, made me a better powder skier right away.  On my way back I hit the lower mountain which had piles of cut-up snow on top of the crust from the rain last night-  not much problem, the ski just went right over everything.  

More technical details:  I flexed the ski in the store many times and the front is stiff as a board, so I would never believe that it could be a good powder ski.  In reality HT turns much better than the stiffness or the sidecut suggests. Must be the soft tail.  It was quick enough to make skiing trees enjoyable.  It also likes to make these distinctively "slarvey" turns when you can feel the tail sliding out a bit throughout the turn, it is actually a great feeling that doubles the fun of powder skiing.  The stiff forefront does not respond to the front input all that well, so the ski definitely rewards a centered stance and a more modern two-footed technique.  On shallow snow the ski carved well, but liked big lazy GS turns; in deel snow it transforms into a much more nimble ski, must be the flat camber effect.  Not a ski for ice, but a 115mm ski is never intended for skiing ice.  Very stable everywhere, versatile, but definitely likes the big open bowls with soft snow the best, it absolutely kills in those conditions.   I am not a big jumper, and I was on someone else's ski in early season conditions, so I didn't do any; whatever small air I got felt solid.  My guess is that the soft tail does not make it is  great hucking ski, but that's not a concern for me at all. 

Comparison to the Blowers: The HT is much more floaty, my Blowers could never quite come to the surface, the HTs do it almost right away.  Blowers always liked to carve, HTs can carve and slide and make sliding quite enjoyable.  HT is also easier to turn in soft snow yet is more stable, no tip chatter, damp solid ride.   On the HT I was always feeling that I am skiing 30% faster that I would usually do, pretty unnerving.   The Blowers are a much quicker groomed ski and bump ski, but those conditions are not exactly a recipe for a 110mm ski.  Overall, I am very happy that I switched. 

Bottom line:  a great soft snow ski for Tahoe.   Definitely not a one-ski quiver, but still killer versatility in all kinds of soft snow.  This ski should have been a huge hit for Dynastar.  With a ski that good why even need a rocker?

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Pros: Flotation, can still carve, bulldozes crud

Cons: Turned up tail sprays my friends - doesn't matter much to me

On Dawgcatching's advice, we mounted them 2.5cm behind the "standard" line. I think this was a good move as the recommended mounting point appears to be pretty far forward and I'd think deep snow performance would be sacrificed to a degree.

HTs have a fairly stout flex for such a big ski. They handle the deep snow well on account of their width, but they definitely don't surf on top like pure powder ski or reverse camber ski. They plow through crud/ chopped powder like nobody's business. While not a power carver by any means, it's still possible to lay down GS/Super-G turns on the  groomers. I couldn't find the speed limit and at no point did they chatter or get squirrely on the groomed. I took these through soft day-end bumps and they do the job if you stay on top of them, but no way would I want to run these through firm mid-season moguls.

The Huge Trouble's dimensions are more consistent with a powder specialist, but to me it skis more like a high performance super-wide all mountain ski.

It's worth noting that the bases of these skis are tough as nails. I hit rocks/roots that would have left fairly deep gouges in my Mantras, but there's nary a scratch on the HTs

Posted

Pros: dollar per cm nothing touches this ski in the category

Cons: not that it matters but the graphics are average

a 115mm waisted twin with no camber that skis like a ski and not a barrel stave? what's not to like?

if you ski an area (or cat ski) with lots of snow and open trees this ski si awesome and for the spells of hardpack no new snow it rails like a GS ski once it is on edge....

 

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Pros: Versatility and solid feel

Cons: Not optimized for powder, not super manuverable in trees.

Its a fat all mountain ski. Great ski for going fast in crud and chopped snow. Good forntside performance for what it is. Solid stability at speed and very predictable ride. Never does anything unexpected.  Its fine in powder but works better after the snow has had time to settled a bit and is much more suited to faster open lines rather than smaller technical lines.  Predictable in trees, but not really optimized for that. After ~50 days the ski has been durable and is looking like it will last 100+ days.  

 

 

 

2008 Dynastar Huge Trouble Ski
Description:

Make the mountain your own personal park when you ride the Dynastar Huge Trouble Ski. Mega fat dimensions let the Huge Troubles nuke over everything in their path and provide crazy floatation in the pow. A low camber profile makes this ski responsive, surfy and playful in soft snow, and eliminates tip dive. This Dynastar ski s wood core maintains rock-solid stability when you need to point it, and the super-raised tips and tails help you stomp powdery landings regular or switch. Vertical sidewall construction offers durability and solid edge grip on hard pack and mank.

Details:
DetailValue
Lengths185cm
Dimensions150 / 115 / 130mm
ConstructionVertical sidewall
Core MaterialWood
TailSuper-raised twintip
Binding SystemNo
Binding IncludedNo
Recommended UseBackcountry freestyle, big mountain freeride
Manufacturer Warranty1 Year
Recommended BindingNo
Binding Type
Model Year
Recommended Level
Recommended use
Turn Radius
Models:
Model Name/TypeMPNEAN/UPC
Style: A9400, Size: 185cmA9400-185717374155198
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