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11/6/09 at 4:42pm

GarryZ
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Chaos are you going to work with adaptive skiers this year and what's your most memorable moment in working with the handicapped ?

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11/6/09 at 6:11pm

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crgildart: There never will be empirical evidence to prove God exists because that isn't what God wants. It wouldn't be "faith" if there was proof.

How convenient! The perfectly logical argument ... for sheep.

George Carlin was absolutely right.

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11/6/09 at 7:47pm

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crgildart: There never will be empirical evidence to prove God exists because that isn't what God wants. It wouldn't be "faith" if there was proof.

How convenient! The perfectly logical argument ... for sheep.

George Carlin was absolutely right.

Yes, George was right for George, TomB is right for TomB, etc. I'm eternally thankful for the freedoms we have here in the US to practice whatever faith or not. I just wish the fundamentalists would quit messing with what freedoms we have left and restore the ones recently taken away.

I'd rather be skiing

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11/7/09 at 12:02am

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To blinding accept something does a disservice to our mental capacity.

Herein lies the problem with mankind; we put far too much stake in our mental capacity. So Bush, Isn't it conceivable that there are things in existence beyond your comprehension or...mental capacity? Or do you actually believe that, since you are unable to logically comprehend God's existence, He must not exist? So, reality or better yet actuality is based soley upon what you are able to logically grasp. That's not egotistical or anything, no, not at all.

News flash: there's things in this universe that you don't understand, simply put, they are too big for your mental capacity. Deal with it. For example, you simply cannot comprehend the awesomeness of my skiing...and ability to pick up chicks.

Helmets are for wimps.

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11/7/09 at 3:52am

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crgildart: I'm eternally thankful for the freedoms we have here in the US to practice whatever faith or not. I just wish the fundamentalists would quit messing with what freedoms we have left and restore the ones recently taken away.

Having the individual freedom to practice your faith and have your beliefs respected is something I fully respect. Unfortunately, religion and faith are hardly an individual thing. From my point of view, the religious right are trampling all over our freedoms. There is no longer separation between state and religion and Americans are slowly letting themselves move farther and farter away from a secular state. Not good, IMHO.

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11/7/09 at 9:29am

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crgildart: I'm eternally thankful for the freedoms we have here in the US to practice whatever faith or not. I just wish the fundamentalists would quit messing with what freedoms we have left and restore the ones recently taken away.

Having the individual freedom to practice your faith and have your beliefs respected is something I fully respect. Unfortunately, religion and faith are hardly an individual thing. From my point of view, the religious right are trampling all over our freedoms. There is no longer separation between state and religion and Americans are slowly letting themselves move farther and farter away from a secular state. Not good, IMHO.

Tom, the separation of church and state isn't supposed to translate to a total absence of morals and values in our society. The USA has never been a secular state. Don't forget, the Constitution, the very groundwork upon which these freedoms you mentioned were built, was written by Christian men, with Christian morals and values in mind. It's not merely coincidence that the country offering its citizens the greatest freedoms had "religious" men build its laws and institute its rights.

Helmets are for wimps.

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11/7/09 at 10:14am

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ahh yes the same men who owned slaves and had some very interesting "social groups" that they took part in ...do some research on Ben Franklin and you may be a little shocked. Revisionism at it's finest

Be More Like Your Dog...

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11/7/09 at 11:00am

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Originally Posted by Chaos

Herein lies the problem with mankind; we put far too much stake in our mental capacity. So Bush, Isn't it conceivable that there are things in existence beyond your comprehension or...mental capacity? Or do you actually believe that, since you are unable to logically comprehend God's existence, He must not exist? So, reality or better yet actuality is based soley upon what you are able to logically grasp. That's not egotistical or anything, no, not at all.

News flash: there's things in this universe that you don't understand, simply put, they are too big for your mental capacity. Deal with it. For example, you simply cannot comprehend the awesomeness of my skiing...and ability to pick up chicks.

A lot of people that do not understand something or mentally comprehend it they explain it by saying god did it. Man has always needed and explanation for things. We are very curious creatures. From the beginning of time man has used "god" to explain the unexplainable. Look at every religion from the start of time. The various gods were responsible for the things like weather and other natural occurrences that man did not understand at the time. Just because you can not understand how something happened does not mean a god is responsible for it, although it can be the easy answer. It is not egotistical at all either that man has painted the images of these godly beings in the form of man.

Powder < Airtime < Moguls!

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11/7/09 at 11:58am

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I thought this was supposed to be about skiing and how to lure the opposite sex into carnal situations. All this metaphysical sex is somewhat less than satisfying.

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11/7/09 at 12:43pm

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Tom, the separation of church and state isn't supposed to translate to a total absence of morals and values in our society. The USA has never been a secular state. Don't forget, the Constitution, the very groundwork upon which these freedoms you mentioned were built, was written by Christian men, with Christian morals and values in mind. It's not merely coincidence that the country offering its citizens the greatest freedoms had "religious" men build its laws and institute its rights.

Actually that is not entirely true. Most of our founding fathers were more correctly categorized as "deists".
http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html
Most of the posters here are "skiests"

I'd rather be skiing

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11/7/09 at 6:00pm

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Tom, the separation of church and state isn't supposed to translate to a total absence of morals and values in our society. The USA has never been a secular state. Don't forget, the Constitution, the very groundwork upon which these freedoms you mentioned were built, was written by Christian men, with Christian morals and values in mind. It's not merely coincidence that the country offering its citizens the greatest freedoms had "religious" men build its laws and institute its rights.

being moral and being religious arent really the same thing.

In the bible it states to respect those who garner respect, in reality christians themselves have slaughtered more people than any other religion, due to being 'different" than them. Even to this day there are christian sect who still hate people who like people of the same sex,turn a blind shoulder to racism and generally dont practice what they preach. Ironically the people that they hate the most are morally some of the best people on the planet. The people christian dislike the most are the people who on those planet are the true pervayers of tolerance and understanding. Irony I tell you.

Simply put only the weak minded need religion to keep themselves inline. Good people can be good people with out a set of laws to gover them and scare them.

"its not that you cant ski the bumps, its that you cant ski and the bumps prove it"

pbfootnit.blogspot.com/ <<< the start of something good!

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11/7/09 at 6:12pm

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I just whacked a chump - what should I do with the body? Chop the chump up and feed him to the 'yotes, wrap the chump up in chickenwire and sink him to the bottom of the lake with the others or ????.

I gotsta know!

Thnx - jer

Wasn't Ben Franklin a huge poon hound?

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11/9/09 at 5:04pm

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OK Chaos, here's a serious question. What can you tell me about Doc Des Roches?

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