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2009 vs 2010 Salomon Falcons CS & CS Pro

#1
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10/27/09 at 8:12am
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 Hi guys,

I just tried out the 2010 Falcons CS  with 100 flex and they fitted me great. I thought the flex could be a bit stiffer, but I assume that it will be just right when I ski in cold weather. I was wondering if there is a difference between the 2010 Falcon CS that I tried and the 2009 Falcon CS model that can be found a bit cheaper online. I know that 2009 Falcon CS had a 90 stated flex, but otherwise they seem identical. If anyone has any experience or knowledge of the 2010 and 2009 models and their difference, then I would really appreciate their advise/feedback.

Also I found a great deal on the 2010 Falcon CS Pros online with 120 flex and I have read that if I were to remove the back screws that the flex would be nearly identical to the Falcon CS. The Falcon CS Pro also has  Race liner versus the Pro liner in the CS model and has an elastic strap. What are the differences in liners and straps and in your opinion is it a good choice to get the CS Pro and to just remove the screws if necessary.

I am new to this board and  any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks is advance!
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10/27/09 at 5:51pm
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all the falcons fit the same,

higher end ones have the MUCH nicer leather liner, and a stiffer flex.
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#3
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10/28/09 at 8:51am
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Thanks for the reply.

Do you know if the Falcon CS Pro with the screw removed is comparable in flex to the regular Falcon CS?

I've also read that Falcon is pretty cold boot. Can you comment if one liner is warmer then the other?

Also if you know of any other boots that have a similar fit to the falcons, but that also have some vibration reduction built in then that would be greatly appreciated.
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10/28/09 at 10:28am
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Yes, the Falcon is a cold boot.

If you remove the bolts on the back of the Pro, it has the same flex as the CS

The 2010 CS Pro liner is different than the 2009. I have the 2009 CS Pro and Salomon just replaced my liners with the 2010 due to a defect. The newer liners appear to have a bit more padding and a few other changes - but nothing real significant and I don't expect them to be any warmer.

Hotronic boot heaters, for me, are not optional with my Falcons. My feet freeze if I don't have them on.
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#5
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10/28/09 at 10:51am
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 Another plug for the Pro.

Tried on the CS on a whim last season, and after a bit of conversation on this forum, opted for the Falcon 10, (same liner as the CS Pro and vastly superior to the CS.)

I was initially concerned that the 10 would be a bit stiff for me without removing the bolts, but found that not to be an issue. Nicest fitting boots that I could imagine owning and they perform flawlessly. I, unfortunately, do not.

There was at least one thread on this forum last season loaded with information about the Falcons. Try a SEARCH and see if you can't find it.
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10/28/09 at 11:09am
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 Thanks for your input!

I am leaning towards getting the 2010 Falcons Pro and removing the screws if I find it too stiff. The only thing that I am worried about is that it does not have any vibration reduction gadgetry - I have some knee and lower back problems. Are there any other boots that you guys can suggest that I try out. Also is there a way to add some vibration reduction stuff to the falcon?
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10/28/09 at 11:25am
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Any type of "vibration reduction" provided by a ski boot is minimal at best. It's not like having a full suspension mountain bike

Edited by The Squeaky Wheel - 10/28/09 at 11:49am
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10/28/09 at 12:36pm
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 That's a good point. Question for you TSW, what Hotronics do you use with Falcons and do you use a separate attachment bracket?
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10/28/09 at 12:42pm
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I have a set of 6 year old Hotronics which are still going strong. The new m4s are sweet and I'll likely get a set this season and pass my older ones to my 10 year old.

I use the clip that mounts the battery to the powerstrap. I keep the battery to the outside of the boot so that a chairlift doesn't knock it off (which can happen if placed just behind the boot by the calf).
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