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Lake Champlain Bridge - broken and closed

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Forgot to mention this, but the bridge near Ticonderoga and I think it's Addison on the Vt side is now closed for safety reasons.  It's one of my favorite ways to get to MRG and Burlington.

Thought you should know.

bz

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That really sucks i love that drive past lake george and crap :(  any clue when its supposed to be reopened?
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 I'm glad they closed it. It was looking pretty sketchy when I drove over it this spring.
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Looked up how long until they open it
Project Status
  • The current status of the project is In Development.
  • Project Development began in Summer 2009.
  • The Bid Opening is expected to be in Spring 2013.
  • Construction is expected to begin in Summer 2013.
  • Construction is expected to be completed in Fall 2015.

So they will not START fixing it until another 4 years.  Wow your tax dollars at work.
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I'm not sure, but I think that timeline was created for the project before the recent "emergency" closing.  I think they're still looking into solutions for the current issue.
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You could be right ski-3po (awesome name) i might be too quick to jump on the bandwagon but it seems like locals are up in arms about it.  as it is the only access bridge in a large distance (think of how your commute could change if that was your local route).  anyway i was going to take the ferry service now and hit up magic hat brew and the over to MGD so not that much harm done unless they close the ferry (why did i say that out loud)  hopin for a big east ski season just laid down a 1,000 for a 4 night ski package at sugarbush....yeah their lift ticket rates greatly increased :(
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The engineer who made the call to has a keen sense of the obvious.  Both Vt and NYS have acknowledged the urgency and are calling the project a high priority.  It will still take a long time to fix.
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Originally Posted by Bingers View Post

...it seems like locals are up in arms about it.  as it is the only access bridge in a large distance (think of how your commute could change if that was your local route)... 
The locals might be worked up, but that's a pretty small group.  That bridge is not much use to anyone going to VT from anywhere in NY south of Lake George, or from north of Plattsburg for that matter. 
OTOH they have a new Democratic congressman who will need support.  (That's the most Republican district in NY.)  Expect him to announce Federal funds to fix it any day now.

BK 

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 Glad I saw this because that's exactly the route we planned to use after ESA Stowe to visit friends in Hague at the northern end of Lake George. Alternate?
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 Glad I saw this because that's exactly the route we planned to use after ESA Stowe to visit friends in Hague at the northern end of Lake George. Alternate?
Your best bet from Hague is to take 22 to Essex and take the ferry.  Going down to Fort Ann adds about 60 miles, and going north to Rouses Point even more.

BK

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 This ferry runs thru the winter?
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Two years ago I went to Stowe for Philpug's Bumpfeast. Paul Jones told me about this route, so I did it instead of getting off at Ft. Ann and 22N.

I crossed that bridge on a fog shrouded morning and was damn glad when I got back on land. America's highway/bridge infrastructure needs a health care plan as much as it's people. I'll pay more gas tax for dedicated repairs.
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The locals might be worked up, but that's a pretty small group.  That bridge is not much use to anyone going to VT from anywhere in NY south of Lake George, or from north of Plattsburg for that matter. 
OTOH they have a new Democratic congressman who will need support.  (That's the most Republican district in NY.)  Expect him to announce Federal funds to fix it any day now.

BK 
 
There are over 1000 people who have jobs in Vt that commute over that bridge. Their commute has gone from 30-55 minutes to over 2 hours each way because that bridge is out. There are ferries for now, until the lake freezes but those add time and expense to mainly working families that have to get to their jobs.One local store on the Vt side has lost over 60% of there business. One Vt. farmer is looking at $80,000 of crops he cannot get too that are over in NY. The bridge closure is affecting many people here in Addison county of Vt and I'm sure just as much over in NY. While federal funds to fix or get it replaced would be nice what is needed is some leadership who just gets vehicles flowing over that stretch of the lake now. If that means getting the army to put down a temp or floating bridge it should be done. A lot of the people affected are days away from losing jobs, businesses and then eventually their homes.

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...was damn glad when I got back on land.
 

The sign says 30 mph and it's one of the few places where I actually slow down.  It's the kind of bridge that can bring out a feeling of fear - like Tuckerman's.

They should let the farmer go back and forth a limited number of times to get his crops.  I hear that there are plenty of other bridges that are in worse shape still open.
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The locals might be worked up, but that's a pretty small group.  That bridge is not much use to anyone going to VT from anywhere in NY south of Lake George, or from north of Plattsburg for that matter. 
OTOH they have a new Democratic congressman who will need support.  (That's the most Republican district in NY.)  Expect him to announce Federal funds to fix it any day now.

BK 

 

Using that bridge is by far the fastest way from Albany to Burlington...ayuh, not much use.
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Taking my son to UVM next weekend for a college recon visit.  Planned to leave Albany in the morning to be there by 10:00am.  Guess we'll be getting up earlier than planned.
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Using that bridge is by far the fastest way from Albany to Burlington...ayuh, not much use.
Fort Ann, Whitehall, Fairhaven, Vergennes is faster.  The only people I know who use the Champlain bridge are the ones trying to keep their wives out of the outlet stores in lake George.

BK

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I take the bridge.

Did you ever take Rt 30 to Middlebury and cut over to Bristol to get to MRG - (This would not be to Burlington).  Less traffic and fewer speed traps.

Edited by Paul Jones - 10/25/09 at 11:36am
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Fort Ann, Whitehall, Fairhaven, Vergennes is faster.  The only people I know who use the Champlain bridge are the ones trying to keep their wives out of the outlet stores in lake George.

BK

 

I dunno.  You can go another 40+ miles on I-87 to Paradox/Schroon Lake exit.  No logging trucks blocking progress on I-87 and much easier to make up time at 80mph.  The road over to Ticonderoga (NY74) has the potential to be slow, but the logging trucks I've been behind left me in the dust.  Mr. Google agrees with me....as does Buzz which is far more important to me.
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I dont know how to quote but i would like to bump the question of the essex ferry run even when the lake freezes.  (i heard it does).  my plan is to still get the lake george drive...from the south go up there for the ferry, go up to magic hat brewery stock up with some beers they dont distribute then head over to sugarbush via country dirt roads cause i like to explore :)
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hmmm if its frozen over couldnt i just drive over it?  maybe calk some openings and floater down stream like the oregon trail game from the 90's? 

i found some postings that the essex ferry is not an icebreaker so if it is completely frozen over its a no go however there were political statements saying it will absoletly run all year...im thinking thats bs and if its frozen over im SOL

god i need to ski right now
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I take the bridge.

Did you ever take Rt 30 to Middlebury and cut over to Bristol to get to MRG - (This would not be to Burlington).  Less traffic and fewer speed traps.
We take 4 to 30, but 30 is so bad that some of my friends take 22A to Shoreham, then some county road to Middlebury.  I can make MRG in less then 3-1/2 hours from Latham.
I think from Troy I might try 7 to Bennington. 

BK

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From my house (Troy) it's 2:45 to MRG by way of the Northway, the bridge and rt 17.  I drive it plenty.

I stay off Rt 7 North of Rutland, too frustrating.  Rt 22 and 22a are a good way to go except for the 30 mph speed zones in the towns.

Rt 100 is my least favorite way to go, from a time stand point.
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From my house (Troy) it's 2:45 to MRG by way of the Northway, the bridge and rt 17.  I drive it plenty.

I stay off Rt 7 North of Rutland, too frustrating.  Rt 22 and 22a are a good way to go except for the 30 mph speed zones in the towns.

Rt 100 is my least favorite way to go, from a time stand point.
I make Stowe in 3-1/2 hours so I must have spaced on 3+ to MRG.  The Northway is way west of the VT border north of LG, and the bridge is almost directly west of Bristol, so you end up driving east a long way to get to MRG.  I suspect this winter you will find that the Whitehall route is quicker, because that bridge is not going to reopen, maybe not next winter either.
The latest on the bridge is that the concrete piers cannot be repaired, and they won't even allow pedestrian traffic.  The 2 states announced free bus and ferry service until the bridge reopens.

BK

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The Northway is way west of the VT border north of LG, and the bridge is almost directly west of Bristol, so you end up driving east a long way to get to MRG.

I suspect this winter you will find that the Whitehall route is quicker, because that bridge is not going to reopen, maybe not next winter either.
 
I guess it will be Rt 7 out of Troy to rt 22 to 22a to 17.  Gotta watch the speeding tickets now.  Time should be about the same 2:45 depending on the speed of traffic. 

You are right about the distance between the Northway and MRG.  Goes on forever.

When I go to Stowe now, I go rt 7 (out of Troy) to rt 4 towards Killington, then 100 north.  There is a cut off (Bethel - rt 107) that takes you to 89 and it's the quickest route that I have found.  I'd say under 3 hrs to the lodge south of Stowe.

The one thing I know for certain - both are too long for one day of skiing.  But I still will do it from time to time.

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Fort Ann, Whitehall, Fairhaven, Vergennes is faster.  The only people I know who use the Champlain bridge are the ones trying to keep their wives out of the outlet stores in lake George.

BK
 

Agreed, I've made the Troy to Burlington trip many times, with many different routes, and I found this one the fastest (but definitely not the most interesting)


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So which route are you saying you take?  From Troy to Burlington, Northway to Hague...?
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This is from FEMA's Daily Situational Awareness Report:
NEW YORK – Update Transportation

A multi-agency center has been established in Crown Point to provide information and assist residents and businesses.  A toll free hotline has been set up to assist the public 1-888-769-7243 (M-F) and for local calls 518-485-1159.  In the interim, the Fort Ticonderoga Ferry operator has agreed to offer free ferry service between Ticonderoga, New York and Shoreham, Vermont.  Lake Champlain Transportation has agreed to offer free ferry service at the Essex/Charlotte crossing.  Also, starting today, free express bus service will be provided to commuters to three major employers in Vermont.  In addition, pedestrian ferry service has been established north of the Lake Champlain Bridge between Westport, New York and Basin Harbor, Vermont.  For more information on the alternate ways to cross the lake, visit www.lcbclosure.org.

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Latest from FEMA...

Video shows Champlain Bridge cracks. A video released Tuesday by the New York Department of Transportation (DOT) shows extensive cracking on at least one of the concrete piers supporting the closed Lake Champlain Bridge linking Addison to Crown Point, New York. Officials closed the bridge October 16 after discovering cracks in at least two concrete piers supporting the span. The closure has caused headaches for commuters who must take circuitous routes to get to work. Businesses near the bridge are crippled because the roughly 3,400 vehicles that crossed the span daily now go elsewhere, leaving the businesses with fewer customers. The underwater video was taken by divers who have been inspecting the piers to determine how extensive the cracking and damage is and to help engineers determine how best to fix the problem. The video, posted by the New York DOT on its Lake Champlain Bridge update page, shows a wide, wavering, diagonal crack extending along several feet of the pier below the water’s surface. Engineers say cracks with a relatively horizontal orientation, like some of the cracks in the piers, are particularly dangerous because the section of the pier above the crack could slip laterally. In a worst-case scenario, such a slip would make the bridge partly or wholly collapse, engineers have said. A New York DOT spokesman, echoing comments from Vermont officials, said he is optimistic a free ferry soon will operate just south of the closed bridge. The ferry would remain open all winter with ferries designed to move through or break ice, he said. Source: http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20091104/NEWS02/91104001
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