Marker Schizo bindings -- Opinons?

This binding looks really cool, but I wonder about its durability and usefulness in the "real world"

Any opinions out there on the Schizo vs the ordinary Griffon?

In the "real world" you ski Look/Rossi/Dynastar bindings.....not Markers

IF you had only one pair of skis (?). Twin tips and wanted to do it all with them, park, frontside and some powder, MAYBE these would have some merit.

yeah, it's not like anyone ever posts questions like:

"where should I mount my Gotama for powder, switch skiing/ park playing and all mountain carving?"

nope, never seen that asked even once.

 I think for any kind of fun shape ski where there is any question of what is the right mounting point, they are a no-brainer.

The price on all the Marker Royal family is WAY too high, the Schizo in particular. I'd grab me an Atomic RACE 614 or 412 and do the same damn thing for under $150....but that's just me

 fixed it for you.

Marker invented the whole concept of "pre-release".....If the Atomic's share this problem (they haven't for me), at least they do it for a lot less money....

have you skied a jester/ griffon and had a pre-release?






...yeah, that's what I thought.

By the way, Cost of a Griffon?  MSRP is $295/ MAP is $229
                  Cost of a PX12 ?   MSRP is $250/ MAP is $219


A WHOPPING $10 savings.

WR...my only modern Markers only exist because of the hostage situation with Blizzard. I really like their skis. I want METAL in my bindings! I expect them to be fully functional 15 years from now.

I was comparing the $495 MSRP of the Schizo to the $119 ebay RACE412's not the Look's. But I'm not buying either so I was just presenting another option to the fore/aft binding (no tool needed for Atomic either)
If I buy new it will be at the 60% off side of the season.

I haven't had any pre-release issues since my Marker Duplex/Rotamat FD days. Boy was I a happy man when the M-4 toe came out. Then I discovered Look's and there was no "looking" back after that!

It sounds like a good improvement. For certain types of skis like a fat new school skis, that might be a really worth wile innovation for some people to switch form powder to park setting. Obviously its not a new idea, but more options are good. 

Atomic bindings, no tool necessary...

www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09077.html


Hmmmm... i wonder why they are cheap on fleaBay ???




Edited by Whiteroom - 9/6/09 at 12:40pm

WR..nice plug for Atomic's full strength effort to fix a very small occurrence issue. I just brought in a pair of '02 heels for this very recall. The RACE 412's that are being sold on ebay for $119 are '05/'06 which is three years after the recall bindings.

It's starting to sound like you are a guy looking to sell a bunch of very pricey Marker product this coming season...

 The Shizno looks like it is a 10th grade shop class project. Personally I don't need it. past that, I like the Royal family series from Marker, I get the performance of a metal housed race binding with much less weight. 

 I don't think Atomic's bindings or Tyrolia railflex for that matter are remotely comparable in terms of range of adjustment.

epic....the Schizo is +/- 30mm. Atomic Race 1018 are +/- 15mm.

marker sure is taking a beating on this thread,I have not had a problem with marker bindings, i had them on my K2 5500's and on my flat mounted recons. I have skied look and tyrolia problem free, so knock on wood!!

Of course one could also get the new Blizzi "Slider" which allows one the option of mounting any alpine binding (including tele or AT) onto your new Blizzards. It allows 7 cm of fore/aft adjustment, is simple and clean, the plate is included in the price of the ski, and you are not stuck with the ridiculous amount of lift on the G&J unless that's what you want.

Too easy.......

SJ 

Can I get that on a pair of S7s?

I have a great Answer for that.

SJ

 They need to come up with an Answer for making my Dukes obsolete. I'm pretty pissed that they changed the track width on their IQ system. Blizzard can bite me.

I will pass along your well founded complaint but biting you would just add insult to injury, 

Your Dukes aren't obsolete at all. They will still fit the ski you bought them with and also any '09 Blizzi ski, so you could buy up a fleet of '09 skis and still fulfill your dream.

As far as retaining the old track width instead of making a general improvement goes............wellllll I s'pose a very few think it sucks but I'm quite happy with it. I'd also s'pose that there are more folks with my attitude about it than with yours.

I just ordered my Atlas with a slider so's I can put a real Look turntable on it......

SJ


Edited by SierraJim - 9/8/09 at 2:37pm

If you are interested in trying different binding placement on a pair of skis then the Schitzo is an excellent choice. It offers 6cm of fore/ aft adjustment that will take you from 'true center mount' to 'powder skiing' on the same pair of skis. The Griffon can't do that... is that something you want or need? That's up to you to decide.


That is how you answer a fairly straight forward question.

Take F'king notes, there will be a test later.

Thank you WR!  This is the (obvious) benefit of the Schizo -- any opinion on the durability?

I see absolutely no reason why the durability would be any different than a regular Griffon, the addition of a front 'track' does add a tiny bit more movement (there is a toe 1/2 track on all last years bindings anyway)... but so what? It's not like Marker won't be around if there is a warranty issue (and I do not see that being an issue).